Michael Ellis on the Most Overlooked Key to Dog Training: Engagement

In this wide-ranging conversation, world-renowned dog trainer Michael Ellis shares what he believes is the most overlooked key to successful dog training: engagement.

Before you can teach a dog what to learn, you first have to teach them how to learn—and that starts by creating motivation, attention, and buy-in. Whether you’re a dog owner, a new trainer, or a seasoned pro, this discussion will change the way you think about dogs, behavior, and obedience.

We cover:
• Why engagement is the foundation of all dog training
• How classical conditioning shapes behavior (often without us realizing it)
• The right and wrong way to use markers and rewards
• How to avoid common mistakes like overshadowing and learned irrelevance
• When to switch from continuous to intermittent reinforcement
• How to address behavior issues like fear, aggression, and anxiety
• The future of dog training and how science is reshaping the field

Learn more from Michael Ellis:
Michael Ellis School for Dog Trainers: https://michaelellisschool.com/
Membership Platform: https://michaelellisschool.com/membership/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@michaelellisschoolfordogtr6450
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100063534012479
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michael_ellis_school/

Work with Nate Schoemer:
Online Course: From Novice to Pro: The Ultimate Guide to Dog Training
https://sitstaylearn.com/collections/instructional-videos/products/from-novice-to-pro-the-ultimate-guide-to-dog-training-by-nate-schoemer?rfsn=8100182.cd38c94&variant=50148621582625

⏱ Episode Breakdown:
00:00 – Engagement in Reward-Based Dog Training
06:35 – Measuring Dog Training Engagement
13:20 – Delayed Reward Timing in Dog Training
18:13 – Effective Dog Training Commands
26:24 – Intermittent Dog Training Strategies
27:43 – Effects of Continuous Rewards
36:16 – Evolving Dog Training Methods
41:51 – Evolving Dog Training Insights
46:09 – Training People for Dog Skills
51:48 – Dog Training: Beyond Protocols
58:09 – Effective Rewards for Anxious Dogs
01:01:26 – Pavlovian Interference in Dog Training
01:06:29 – Delayed Rewards in Dog Training
01:11:20 – Evolving Approach to Dog Training
01:19:55 – Michael Ellis Membership Launch
01:20:56 – Affordable Dog Training Access

Thinking about getting a puppy—or struggling with one you already have?

In this in-depth conversation, professional dog trainer Nate Schoemer sits down with Maureen Cucinella to debunk common puppy training myths, tackle crate and muzzle training, explain the truth about socialization, and offer real solutions for raising a confident, balanced dog.

You’ll learn:
• How to spot reliable dog training advice (and avoid the harmful stuff)
• The truth about punishment, dominance, and boundaries
• Crate training and muzzle use as confidence-building tools
• Tips to stop puppy biting, jumping, and overexcitement
• How to safely socialize unvaccinated puppies

Whether you're raising your first dog or looking to sharpen your training skills, this episode is packed with actionable insights to help you raise the dog you’ve always wanted.

- Work with Nate Schoemer:
Online Course: From Novice to Pro
https://sitstaylearn.com/collections/instructional-videos/products/from-novice-to-pro-the-ultimate-guide-to-dog-training-by-nate-schoemer?rfsn=8100182.cd38c94&variant=50148621582625

Book a 1-on-1 Virtual Lesson:
https://calendly.com/nateschoemer/1-hour-virtual-training

- Learn more from Maureen Cucinella:
Website: https://www.SpiritedK9.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SpiritedK9/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5PRQlY3iuS9oBXhXEo9Lfg
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spiritedk9/

- Episode Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction: Dog Socialization and Reactivity Issues
07:18 – Realistic Puppy Training Approaches That Actually Work
13:00 – Using Maternal Techniques to Raise Well-Behaved Dogs
18:31 – How to Adapt Your Training to Fit Each Dog
25:47 – Playing with High-Drive Puppies (Sport Dog Tips)
31:21 – Keeping Puppies Calm and Grounded
34:57 – Stop Dog Jumping with the “Invitation Only” Rule
38:16 – Breaking Down Common Puppy Training Advice
43:54 – Crate Training: Why It’s a Must (Not a Jail)
53:06 – Frustration-Free Puppy Training Techniques
59:11 – Puppy Socialization Mistakes to Avoid
01:01:02 – Safe Socialization for Unvaccinated Puppies
01:07:11 – Final Thoughts: Enjoy the Journey, Not Just the Training

🎙️ What does it really take to raise a reliable service dog?

In this episode, Nate Schoemer sits down with professional service dog trainer Heather Lowell to explore the science and strategy behind raising life-changing canine partners. From genetics and early development to advanced training and public access proofing, this episode is packed with honest insights and expert advice.

Whether you’re starting with a puppy, considering a rescue, or looking to train a dog you already have, Heather shares a clear roadmap to success—rooted in real-world experience and evidence-based techniques.

• How to select the right dog for service work (puppy vs. rescue)

• The role of genetics, epigenetics, and the critical socialization period

• Crate training, potty training, and early management strategies

• Common myths around service dog certification and ADA laws

• E-collar training, reward timing, and advanced behavior shaping

• Public access training, task work, and distraction proofing

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Check out Nate’s complete step-by-step course:
🎓 From Novice to Pro: The Ultimate Guide to Dog Training
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🔍 Topics Covered:👤 Guest: Heather Lowell🐾 Want to train your own dog like a pro?

Join me, Nate Schoemer, for a special Q&A session all about my online dog training course, From Novice to Pro. Whether you’re just starting your training journey or looking to level up, I’m answering your questions and sharing insider tips to help you get the most out of the course.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

• How to navigate the course in the right order for maximum results
• What each module covers—from engagement and marker training to leash skills and off-leash mastery
• Why short, targeted lessons lead to faster progress
• How to troubleshoot common training challenges using the course system

As a professional dog trainer who’s taught at the Tom Rose School, I’m here to help you train with clarity and purpose. Ready to dive deeper? Check out the full From Novice to Pro course or book a virtual lesson with me—links below!

Take Your Training Further:

• Enroll in From Novice to Pro: https://sitstaylearn.com/products/from-novice-to-pro-the-ultimate-guide-to-dog-training-by-nate-schoemer
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Love This Episode? Share it with a fellow dog owner, leave a review on your podcast app, or tag me on social media—I’d love to hear your biggest training takeaway! Stay tuned for more episodes to help you and your dog thrive.

🎧 Why Your Dog Ignores You — And How to Fix It

Tired of repeating yourself just to get your dog to listen? In this episode, I break down the real reasons dogs tune us out—and what you can do to change that.

We’ll dive into the most common training mistakes, like unclear communication and inconsistent follow-through, and I’ll share practical, step-by-step strategies that help your dog respond the first time, every time.

You’ll learn:

🧠 Why repetition can actually teach your dog to ignore you
🎯 How to add meaning and accountability to your commands
🐾 Easy adjustments that instantly improve clarity and responsiveness
✅ My go-to system for building strong engagement and structure

If you're ready to stop repeating yourself and start creating lasting results, this episode is for you.

Want to go deeper?
🐾 Take my full online course:
👉 From Novice to Pro: The Ultimate Guide to Dog Training

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Curious if the NePoPo® dog training system works for everyday pet dogs—not just working or sport dogs? In this episode, Nate sits down with Bow Wow Bill to break down how innovative training methods like NePoPo® can dramatically improve communication, trust, and results for pet owners.Here’s what you’ll learn in this episode:The real-world benefits of NePoPo® and why it’s not just for sport or working dogsHow understanding the science and psychology behind dog training unlocks lasting behavior changeWays tools like the E-collar and dopamine box benefit, not harm, pet dogs when used correctlyThe importance of motivation, hope, and balanced techniques to build a strong relationship and reliable obedienceCommon pitfalls in dog training—like being too anthropomorphic—and how to avoid them for a happier, more motivated dogReady to take your training to the next level? Tune in and discover how these methods can help you build a better relationship with your dog!Whether you're a professional dog trainer or a pet owner seeking effective training techniques, this episode offers valuable insights into the practical applications of NePoPo® for pet dogs.​🔗 Connect with Bow Wow Bill:Website: bowwowbill.comFacebook: facebook.com/bowwowbillsYouTube: @BowWowBills— More Ways to Learn with Nate:🐾 My Full Dog Training Course:👉 https://sitstaylearn.com/collections/instructional-videos/products/from-novice-to-pro-the-ultimate-guide-to-dog-training-by-nate-schoemer?variant=50148621582625📍Book a Virtual Lesson:👉 https://calendly.com/nateschoemer/1-hour-virtual-training💬 Stay connected on Instagram & Facebook👉 @NateSchoemer

In today’s episode, I’m breaking down one of the most effective and humane ways to transform your dog’s behavior—using leash pressure and tone to build clear, consistent boundaries your dog actually understands.

If your dog constantly tests limits, ignores commands, or leaves you feeling frustrated, this approach can take you from chaos to calm.

You’ll learn how to:

• Use leash pressure as guidance—not punishment

• Time your tone to communicate with meaning

• Stay clear, consistent, and fair with your expectations

• Establish boundaries your dog will respect for life

This is the same method I’ve used to help countless families turn their “little devils” into well-mannered companions—and you can do it too.

🛠️ More Ways to Learn with Nate:

🐾 My Full Dog Training Course
"From Novice to Pro: The Ultimate Guide to Dog Training by Nate Schoemer"
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📍 Book a Virtual Lesson
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We’re going LIVE with expert dog trainer Larry Krohn to answer your questions and continue the conversation from last week’s episode! Whether you had a follow-up question from the interview or you’re just tuning in now, this is your chance to engage directly with one of the most respected trainers in the industry.📌 In last week’s episode, we discussed:The most common training mistakes dog owners makeHow to handle aggressive behaviorThe mindset and techniques for raising a well-behaved dogHow to build a strong, lasting relationship with your dogToday’s Live Q&A is all about you — your questions, your challenges, and your dog’s success.🐾 Courses from Larry & Nate on Sit Stay Learn:🔹 Providing Freedom Through E-Collar Training by Larry Krohn👉 https://sitstaylearn.com/products/providing-freedom-through-e-collar-training-by-larry-krohn?variant=48591370387745🔹 The Ultimate Canine Communication Masterclass by Larry Krohn👉 https://sitstaylearn.com/products/the-ultimate-canine-communication-masterclass-by-larry-krohn?variant=50430621352225🔹 From Novice to Pro: The Ultimate Guide to Dog Training by Nate Schoemer👉 https://sitstaylearn.com/products/from-novice-to-pro-the-ultimate-guide-to-dog-training-by-nate-schoemer?variant=50148621582625🔗 Follow Larry Krohn:🌐 Website: https://pakmasters.com/📺 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCortXxJdZYbHCrOa3nddr6g📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/larrykrohn/