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  • Grace in the Change: Letting Go, Leaning In, and Starting Fresh
    Aug 12 2025

    Hard days don’t win when we choose our hard and let God lead.

    In this episode, Ryan Reichert and Lisa Sander talk about how God’s grace shows up during life shifts and seasons of change. Lisa shares her journey of selling and moving into a new home, and how it became a time of peace, growth, and fresh perspective.

    They talk about how change can be an opportunity to create something new, why letting go can actually feel good, and how gratitude can turn tough moments into blessings. As parents, they also reflect on showing their children how to respond with calm and grace in every situation.

    Listen and be blessed in the Our Healer, Our Protector podcast: Grace in the Change: Letting Go, Leaning In, and Starting Fresh.

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    Ryan T. Reichert is a born-again Christian, retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel, and servant leader whose life is a testimony of redemption and purpose. With 23 years of military service, including four combat deployments, and a career in corporate leadership, Ryan brings deep into resilience and transformation. As a recovering alcoholic and addict, his journey is marked by brokenness healed through faith. He now dedicates his life to guiding others toward hope and new beginnings. Wherever God leads, Ryan follows with a heart committed to service and lasting impact.

    Website: https://ourprotectordevelopment.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanreichert78/

    Books:

    Grab a copy of “God Only Knows When the Devil Comes for You: A Second Chance at Life” on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Only-Knows-When-Devil-Comes/dp/B0F2QDG1R4

    Grab a copy of “God Only Knows When the Devil Comes for You: A Second Chance at Life” on Barnes & Noble:

    https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/god-only-knows-when-the-devil-comes-for-you-ryan-t-reichert/1147201405

    Lisa Sander is a Christian mother, author, speaker, and registered nurse with 24 years of service across the greater Twin Cities. As the founder of Our Healer LLC, she blends faith and compassion to walk alongside others in their healing journeys. Her work is rooted in the belief that brokenness can lead to purpose through Christ. Lisa uses her voice as a podcaster and natural leader to inspire transformation and hope. Her mission is clear: to help others become who God created them to be.

    Website: https://lisasander.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-sander-80359725a/

    Produced by https://www.BroadcastYourAuthority.com

    #GraceInChange #LetGoAndLetGod #ChristianParenting

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    26 min
  • Abandonment to Redemption: A Father’s Journey of Love and Faith
    Aug 5 2025

    Good fathers chase after their lost sheep—just like our Heavenly Father does.

    In this episode, Ryan Reichert and Lisa Sander sit down with Tom Pfanner, the voice behind Dads Who Lead, for a powerful conversation about fatherhood, faith, and fighting for family.

    Tom shares his honest journey of parenting through pain and how he held on to God while his teenage son rebelled, how he chose to lead with love instead of control, and what it means to rebuild trust as a father. He also honors the vital role of moms and the importance of unity in the family.

    Listen and be blessed in the Our Healer, Our Protector podcast: Abandonment to Redemption: A Father’s Journey of Love and Faith

    Subscribe to Our Healer, Our Protector Audio Podcast. Please leave us a 5-star

    Review:

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    Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ourhealerourprotector

    Tom Pfanner is a family and corporate leadership expert, author, and speaker. He lives in Oregon with his three children and wife, Megan. He has over 15 years of experience in coaching and teaching at the middle, high school, and collegiate levels. His drive to help dads, young men & women succeed is what inspired his project, Dads Who Lead. His experience as an educator gives him a unique perspective on how schools are missing the mark in preparing kids to win in the game of life.

    Website: https://dadswholead.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomaspfanner/

    Ryan T. Reichert is a born-again Christian, retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel, and servant leader whose life is a testimony of redemption and purpose. With 23 years of military service, including four combat deployments, and a career in corporate leadership, Ryan brings deep into resilience and transformation. As a recovering alcoholic and addict, his journey is marked by brokenness healed through faith. He now dedicates his life to guiding others toward hope and new beginnings. Wherever God leads, Ryan follows with a heart committed to service and lasting impact.

    Website: https://ourprotectordevelopment.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanreichert78/

    Books:

    Grab a copy of “God Only Knows When the Devil Comes for You: A Second Chance at Life” on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Only-Knows-When-Devil-Comes/dp/B0F2QDG1R4

    Grab a copy of “God Only Knows When the Devil Comes for You: A Second Chance at Life” on Barnes & Noble:

    https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/god-only-knows-when-the-devil-comes-for-you-ryan-t-reichert/1147201405

    Lisa Sander is a Christian mother, author, speaker, and registered nurse with 24 years of service across the greater Twin Cities. As the founder of Our Healer LLC, she blends faith and compassion to walk alongside others in their healing journeys. Her work is rooted in the belief that brokenness can lead to purpose through Christ. Lisa uses her voice as a podcaster and natural leader to inspire transformation and hope. Her mission is clear: to help others become who God created them to be.

    Website: https://lisasander.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-sander-80359725a/

    Produced by https://www.BroadcastYourAuthority.com

    #DadsWhoLead #FaithfulFatherhood #ProdigalSonStory

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    26 min
  • From Warrior to Healer: A Journey of Self-Acceptance and Transformation
    Jul 29 2025
    We’re all a little broken—but we’re still called to be kind, and to feel joy again. In this episode, Ryan Reichert and Lisa Sander sit down with Nina Lorene for a powerful conversation on self-acceptance, healing, and honoring the transformation journey God has us on. Nina shares her story of being a woman in the army, walking through deep pain, and learning how to find healing in the body, mind, and soul. Together, they talk about how we often become our own worst enemy, why it’s okay to use the “fancy napkins,” and how having reverence in the everyday can bring us back to life. Listen and be blessed in the Our Healer, Our Protector podcast: From Warrior to Healer: A Journey of Self-Acceptance and Transformation. Subscribe to Our Healer, Our Protector Audio Podcast. Please leave us a 5-star review. Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ourhealerourprotector Nina Lorene is originally from Lawrence, Kansas and moved to Florida in 1998 while in college when her family relocated to Bradenton, Florida. She graduated Cum Laude from the University of Tampa with a B.S. in Finance. In 2001, she was commissioned into the U.S. Army as a Distinguished Military Graduate (top 20%) and served as a Finance Officer for just over 7 years, serving overseas in South Korea and completing a Combat tour in Iraq. She honorably ended her term of service in 2008, after experiencing full-body pain for quite some time. She knew medication wasn’t the answer and began her journey to heal and assist others as a result. Nina feels her purpose in this life is as a guide and messenger, empowering others to align within and to our Creator. She refers to herself as a Self Healing Empowerment Guide. She draws from her experiences, intuition, education and training, and connection to Christ-Consciousness to be an open channel and assist others in remembering who they truly are. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ninalorene/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Ninalorenehermann Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/1ninalorene/ Ryan T. Reichert is a born-again Christian, retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel, and servant leader whose life is a testimony of redemption and purpose. With 23 years of military service, including four combat deployments, and a career in corporate leadership, Ryan brings deep into resilience and transformation. As a recovering alcoholic and addict, his journey is marked by brokenness healed through faith. He now dedicates his life to guiding others toward hope and new beginnings. Wherever God leads, Ryan follows with a heart committed to service and lasting impact. Website: https://ourprotectordevelopment.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanreichert78/ Books: Grab a copy of “God Only Knows When the Devil Comes for You: A Second Chance at Life” on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Only-Knows-When-Devil-Comes/dp/B0F2QDG1R4 Grab a copy of “God Only Knows When the Devil Comes for You: A Second Chance at Life” on Barnes & Noble: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/god-only-knows-when-the-devil-comes-for-you-ryan-t-reichert/1147201405 Lisa Sander is a Christian mother, author, speaker, and registered nurse with 24 years of service across the greater Twin Cities. As the founder of Our Healer LLC, she blends faith and compassion to walk alongside others in their healing journeys. Her work is rooted in the belief that brokenness can lead to purpose through Christ. Lisa uses her voice as a podcaster and natural leader to inspire transformation and hope. Her mission is clear: to help others become who God created them to be. Website: https://lisasander.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-sander-80359725a/ Produced by https://www.BroadcastYourAuthority.com #UseTheFancyNapkins #ReverenceInEveryday #FaithLedTransformation
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    22 min
  • Beyond the Trauma: How a Tragedy Became a Testimony
    Jul 22 2025
    We’re wired to avoid pain but true healing begins when we stop running from it. In this powerful episode, Ryan Reichert and Lisa Sander sit down with renowned speaker Brian Bogert for a raw conversation about life beyond trauma and the radical choice to live free from anger. At just 7 years old, Brian lost his arm in a devastating truck accident. But it was the emotional wounds—shame, silence, and the need for validation—that shaped his deepest battles. He shares how he confronted the “trash from his past,” built unshakable trust in his marriage, and learned that true connection requires us to stop overprotecting and start showing up fully. This is a conversation about courage, healing, and choosing freedom even when pain is part of the story. Listen and be blessed in the Our Healer, Our Protector podcast: Beyond the Trauma: How a Tragedy Became a Testimony. Enjoy the podcast? Subscribe and leave a 5-star review! Brian Bogert is a heart surgeon without a blade. He does not start outside with what you need to DO, he starts inside with who you ARE. At just 7 years old, Brian was faced with a traumatic injury that most of us can barely even imagine. He was run over by a truck, and his left arm was severed from his body. After years of intensive rehabilitation and over 24 surgeries, Brian has a deep lived understanding of how physical, emotional, and mental pain can keep people buried, regardless of what their initial trauma was. As a human behavior and performance coach, speaker, and business strategist, Brian disrupts the normative approach on how to create sustainable growth and lasting change personally and professionally. Connect with Brian Bogert! Website: https://brianbogert.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brian.bogert.3 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/BogertBrian LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianbogert/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@BogertBrian Ryan T. Reichert is a born-again Christian, retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel, and servant leader whose life is a testimony of redemption and purpose. With 23 years of military service, including four combat deployments, and a career in corporate leadership, Ryan brings deep into resilience and transformation. As a recovering alcoholic and addict, his journey is marked by brokenness healed through faith. He now dedicates his life to guiding others toward hope and new beginnings. Wherever God leads, Ryan follows with a heart committed to service and lasting impact. Website: https://ourprotectordevelopment.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanreichert78/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ourhealerourprotector Books: Grab a copy of “God Only Knows When the Devil Comes for You: A Second Chance at Life” on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Only-Knows-When-Devil-Comes/dp/B0F2QDG1R4 Grab a copy of “God Only Knows When the Devil Comes for You: A Second Chance at Life” on Barnes & Noble: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/god-only-knows-when-the-devil-comes-for-you-ryan-t-reichert/1147201405 Lisa Sander is a Christian mother, author, speaker, and registered nurse with 24 years of service across the greater Twin Cities. As the founder of Our Healer LLC, she blends faith and compassion to walk alongside others in their healing journeys. Her work is rooted in the belief that brokenness can lead to purpose through Christ. Lisa uses her voice as a podcaster and natural leader to inspire transformation and hope. Her mission is clear: to help others become who God created them to be. Website: https://lisasander.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-sander-80359725a/ Produced by https://www.BroadcastYourAuthority.com #HealingAfterTrauma #LetGoOfThePast #LiveBeyondAnger
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    26 min
  • How Vision, Consistency, and a God-Centered Mindset Unlock Your Purpose
    Jul 15 2025

    When you know who you are and where you’re going, there’s no limit to what God can do through you.

    In this episode, Ryan Reichert and Lisa Sander are joined by Niko Arapkiles, the founder of Vision Espresso, to talk about how unlocking our purpose takes vision, consistency, and a God-centered mindset.

    Niko shares how he realized at a young age just how powerful our minds are, how our subconscious is solidified in childhood within our household, and the power of sharing love with others. He invites us to live intentionally, create a good mindset, and let God be in control of our lives.

    Listen and be blessed in the Our Healer, Our Protector podcast: How Vision, Consistency, and a God-Centered Mindset Unlock Your Purpose

    Subscribe to Our Healer, Our Protector Audio Podcast.

    Enjoy the podcast? Subscribe and leave a 5-star review!

    Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ourhealerourprotector

    Niko Arapkiles is the founder of Vision Espresso, a lifelong learner, and a master community builder. After nearly two decades in personal development and investing hundreds of thousands into research and mentorship, he set out to build what he couldn’t find—a tool that bridges the gap between vision and action, between woo and do. He had spent years creating aligned communities—spaces where clarity, connection, and collaboration thrive.

    Connect with Niko Arapkiles

    Website: https://visionespresso.co/

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nikoarapkiles/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/niko-arapkiles-991b7064/

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/officialnikoarapkiles

    Ryan T. Reichert is a born-again Christian, retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel, and servant leader whose life is a testimony of redemption and purpose. With 23 years of military service, including four combat deployments, and a career in corporate leadership, Ryan brings deep into resilience and transformation. As a recovering alcoholic and addict, his journey is marked by brokenness healed through faith. He now dedicates his life to guiding others toward hope and new beginnings. Wherever God leads, Ryan follows with a heart committed to service and lasting impact.

    Website: https://ourprotectordevelopment.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanreichert78/

    Books:

    Grab a copy of “God Only Knows When the Devil Comes for You: A Second Chance at Life” on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Only-Knows-When-Devil-Comes/dp/B0F2QDG1R4

    Grab a copy of “God Only Knows When the Devil Comes for You: A Second Chance at Life” on Barnes & Noble:

    https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/god-only-knows-when-the-devil-comes-for-you-ryan-t-reichert/1147201405

    Lisa Sander is a Christian mother, author, speaker, and registered nurse with 24 years of service across the greater Twin Cities. As the founder of Our Healer LLC, she blends faith and compassion to walk alongside others in their healing journeys. Her work is rooted in the belief that brokenness can lead to purpose through Christ. Lisa uses her voice as a podcaster and natural leader to inspire transformation and hope. Her mission is clear: to help others become who God created them to be.

    Website: https://lisasander.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-sander-80359725a/

    Produced by https://www.BroadcastYourAuthority.com

    #WalkInFaith #LetGodLead #LiveWithPurpose

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    25 min
  • Healing the Wounds You Didn’t Know Were Still There
    Jul 8 2025

    Grab a copy of “God Only Knows When the Devil Comes for You: A Second Chance at Life” on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Only-Knows-When-Devil-Comes/dp/B0F2QDG1R4

    Change is scary, but it’s where healing begins.

    In this episode, Ryan Reichert and Lisa Sander get real about how they became a healer and protector in each other’s lives and how God used them to uncover and heal wounds they didn’t even know were still there.

    They talk about the importance of letting your guard down, releasing emotions and people that no longer serve you, and allowing yourself to receive help, too. You’ll hear how small changes, like starting your day with purpose, can break big chains.

    Listen and be blessed in the Our Healer, Our Protector podcast: Healing the Wounds You Didn’t Know Were Still There

    Subscribe to Our Healer, Our Protector Audio Podcast. Please leave us a 5-star

    Review:

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6JmK7GqPLphCkpHY40kUne

    Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/our-healer-our-protector/id1812547916

    Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ourhealerourprotector

    Ryan T. Reichert is a born-again Christian, retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel, and servant leader whose life is a testimony of redemption and purpose. With 23 years of military service, including four combat deployments, and a career in corporate leadership, Ryan brings deep into resilience and transformation. As a recovering alcoholic and addict, his journey is marked by brokenness healed through faith. He now dedicates his life to guiding others toward hope and new beginnings. Wherever God leads, Ryan follows with a heart committed to service and lasting impact.

    Website: https://ourprotectordevelopment.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanreichert78/

    Books:

    Grab a copy of “God Only Knows When the Devil Comes for You: A Second Chance at Life” on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Only-Knows-When-Devil-Comes/dp/B0F2QDG1R4

    Grab a copy of “God Only Knows When the Devil Comes for You: A Second Chance at Life” on Barnes & Noble:

    https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/god-only-knows-when-the-devil-comes-for-you-ryan-t-reichert/1147201405

    Lisa Sander is a Christian mother, author, speaker, and registered nurse with 24 years of service across the greater Twin Cities. As the founder of Our Healer LLC, she blends faith and compassion to walk alongside others in their healing journeys. Her work is rooted in the belief that brokenness can lead to purpose through Christ. Lisa uses her voice as a podcaster and natural leader to inspire transformation and hope. Her mission is clear: to help others become who God created them to be.

    Website: https://lisasander.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-sander-80359725a/

    Produced by https://www.BroadcastYourAuthority.com

    #GodHealsWounds #ChristianHealingJourney #LetGoAndLetGod

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    23 min
  • Tai Lopez Speaks on Books, Your Cheat Code to a Richer, & a Smarter Life
    Jul 1 2025

    Once you know what smart work is, you’ll see the fruit of your hard work.

    In this episode, Ryan Reichert and Lisa Sander welcome their first guest, investor and advisor Tai Lopez, for a deep and honest conversation about books, abundance, and living smartly.

    Tai talks about how books can be cheat codes for life, why mentorship matters in overcoming blind spots, and how smart working can change everything. They also open up about recovering from addiction, restoring broken relationships, and walking the road to real healing.

    Listen and be blessed in the Our Healer, Our Protector podcast: Books, Your Cheat Code to a Richer, Smarter Life

    Subscribe to Our Healer, Our Protector Audio Podcast. Please leave us a 5-star

    Review:

    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6JmK7GqPLphCkpHY40kUne

    Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/our-healer-our-protector/id1812547916

    Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ourhealerourprotector

    Tai Lopez is an investor, partner, or advisor to over 20 multi-million dollar businesses. Through his popular book club and podcasts, Tai shares advice on how to achieve health, wealth, love, and happiness with 1.4 million people in 40 countries. Tai also has one of the fastest-growing TED Talks with over 12 million views already. He also owns the largest book shipping club in the world, Mentor Box, and was voted the Number 1 Social Media Influencer by Entrepreneur Magazine. He has interviewed: Kobe Bryant, Hilary Clinton, Rihanna, Jordan Belfort, Steven Spielberg, Mark Cuban, Chris Paul, Caron Butler & more.

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TaiLopezOfficial

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tailopez/?ref=badge

    X: https://x.com/tailopez

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/tailopezofficial

    Ryan T. Reichert is a born-again Christian, retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel, and servant leader whose life is a testimony of redemption and purpose. With 23 years of military service, including four combat deployments, and a career in corporate leadership, Ryan brings deep into resilience and transformation. As a recovering alcoholic and addict, his journey is marked by brokenness healed through faith. He now dedicates his life to guiding others toward hope and new beginnings. Wherever God leads, Ryan follows with a heart committed to service and lasting impact.

    Website: https://ourprotectordevelopment.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanreichert78/

    Book: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/god-only-knows-when-the-devil-comes-for-you-ryan-t-reichert/1147201405?ean=9798895974889

    Lisa Sander is a Christian mother, author, speaker, and registered nurse with 24 years of service across the greater Twin Cities. As the founder of Our Healer LLC, she blends faith and compassion to walk alongside others in their healing journeys. Her work is rooted in the belief that brokenness can lead to purpose through Christ. Lisa uses her voice as a podcaster and natural leader to inspire transformation and hope. Her mission is clear: to help others become who God created them to be.

    Website: https://lisasander.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-sander-80359725a/

    Produced by https://www.BroadcastYourAuthority.com

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    48 min
  • God Got You Always: Trusting Through the Storm
    Jun 24 2025

    God Got You Always: Trusting Through the Storm

    In this episode, Ryan Reichert and Lisa Sander sit down with Amanda Bayerle, host of the She's Got God Podcast, to talk about living a God-centered life, no matter what storms you’re facing.

    Amanda shares her powerful story of encountering God, healing from trauma and depression, and how she now lives a faith-filled life with her husband as the CEO of her household.

    Together, they discuss God's guidance in business, discipleship for women, and what it means to surrender and walk in purpose fully.

    If you keep comparing yourself to other women, you’ll miss the life God is calling you to live.

    Listen and be blessed in the Our Healer, Our Protector podcast: God Got You Always: Trusting Through the Storm.

    Enjoy the podcast? Subscribe and leave a 5-star review!

    Amanda Bayerle is a wife of 12+ years, mother of 2, business owner, and host of the She's Got God Podcast. A weekly podcast where you will learn about how you as a woman can live a life for God with weekly bible teachings, teachings on specific topics, and bringing other women of God to share their wisdom and testimony.

    Connect with Amanda:

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amandabayerle/

    Learn more about the She’s Got God podcast!

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shesgotgodpodcast/

    Ryan T. Reichert is a born-again Christian, retired U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel, and servant leader whose life is a testimony of redemption and purpose. With 23 years of military service, including four combat deployments, and a career in corporate leadership, Ryan brings deep into resilience and transformation. As a recovering alcoholic and addict, his journey is marked by brokenness healed through faith. He now dedicates his life to guiding others toward hope and new beginnings. Wherever God leads, Ryan follows with a heart committed to service and lasting impact.

    Website: https://ourprotectordevelopment.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanreichert78/

    Book: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/god-only-knows-when-the-devil-comes-for-you-ryan-t-reichert/1147201405?ean=9798895974889

    Lisa Sander is a Christian mother, author, speaker, and registered nurse with 24 years of service across the greater Twin Cities. As the founder of Our Healer LLC, she blends faith and compassion to walk alongside others in their healing journeys. Her work is rooted in the belief that brokenness can lead to purpose through Christ. Lisa uses her voice as a podcaster and natural leader to inspire transformation and hope. Her mission is clear: to help others become who God created them to be.

    Website: https://lisasander.com/

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-sander-80359725a/

    Produced by https://www.BroadcastYourAuthority.com

    #ShesGotGod #StopComparingStartBelieving #GodlyWomanhood

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    24 min