Where do we go from here?Where are the leaders?Why does it feel like no one is doing anything?In this solo episode of The Outdoor Minimalist Podcast, Meg Carney dismantles one of the most persistent myths about resistance: that it only looks one way — loud, visible, risky, and centered on a single kind of leader.Drawing on history, journalism, and movement research, this episode explores why successful resistance movements don’t rely on heroes or front lines alone. They rely on ecosystems. Networks of people taking on different roles at different times, based on capacity, skill, and sustainability.Meg situates this conversation specifically within outdoor spaces and the outdoor industry, where leadership and power have historically been framed through a narrow, often white lens. By examining who has always been forced to resist, and who has often had the privilege not to, this episode challenges listeners to reconsider where leadership already exists, and what real allyship actually requires.Meg unpacks why neutrality can be dangerous, how “malignant normality” takes hold, and why resistance must include collective care if it’s going to last.Finally, this episode offers a framework for understanding the many roles that show up in movements that actually work, including:- Frontlines- Organizers - Caregivers - Storytellers- Educators- Builders- SupportersAnd invites listeners to identify where they can contribute honestly and sustainably.Because resistance isn’t a sprint.It’s not even a marathon.It’s a relay, and everyone has a role.Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/outdoor.minimalist.book/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theoutdoorminimalist.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Buy Me a Coffee: ⁠⁠⁠https://buymeacoffee.com/outdoorminimalist⁠⁠⁠Listener Survey: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://forms.gle/jd8UCN2LL3AQst976⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Recommended Books on Resistance & Social Movements- Erica Chenoweth & Maria J. Stephan — Why Civil Resistance Works (2011)- Gene Sharp — The Politics of Nonviolent Action (1973)- Sarah Jaffe — Necessary Trouble (2016)- Judith Butler — Frames of War (2009)- Peter Kropotkin — Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution (1902)- Umberto Eco — How to Spot a Fascist (2020)- Timothy Snyder — On Tyranny (2017)- Saul D. Alinsky — Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals (1971)- bell hooks — Feminism Is for Everybody (2000)- Audre Lorde — Sister Outsider (1984)- If They Come in the Morning: Voices of Resistance, edited by Angela Y. Davis (1971)- Ellen Jones — Outrage (2025)- Leah Thomas — Intersectional Environmentalist (2022)- Olúfẹ́mi O. Táíwò — Elite Capture (2022)- Rebecca Solnit — Hope in the Dark (2004)- Rebecca Solnit — A Paradise Built in Hell (2009)- Sara Ahmed — The Feminist Killjoy Handbook (2023)- Omkari L. Williams — Micro Activism (2023)- adrienne maree brown — Pleasure Activism: The Politics of Feeling Good (2019)- Arlie Russell Hochschild — Strangers in Their Own Land (2016)- Maria Ressa — How to Stand Up to a Dictator: The Fight for Our Future (2022)- Guy B. Johnson & James A. Dombrowski — The Highlander Folk School- Charles Tilly — Social Movements, 1768–2004Free Online ResourcesInternational Center on Nonviolent Conflict — Methods of Nonviolent Actionhttps://www.nonviolent-conflict.org/198-methods-of-nonviolent-action/ Stanford Mapping Militancy Project — Leadership & Movement Researchhttps://mappingmilitants.org/Kimberlé Crenshaw — Intersectionality essays & TED Talkhttps://www.ted.com/talks/kimberle_crenshaw_the_urgency_of_intersectionalityIf you’re new to this topic, Rebecca Solnit and Sarah Jaffe are great starting points.

A lot has been happening this year already, and while many Americans are focused on ICE terrorizing US citizens in places like Minneapolis, attacks on public lands have not slowed down, they’re just getting less attention.

With the limited time we have on the show, we have three interviews for you today.

The first is discussing management changes with greater sage-grouse followed by updates on a proposed bill to open a toxic copper sulfide mine in the watershed of the Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness in Northern Minnesota and finally, looking at the continued use of the Congressional Review Act to attempt to roll back protections for Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument in Utah.

Featured Guests:

- Sarah Stellberg, Advocates for the West

- Ingrid Lyons, Save the Boundary Waters

- Steve Bloch, Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance

We have a lot to cover in today’s episode, and we can’t cover it all here on the podcast. So, as a reminder, we release an email newsletter with more details and public lands and sustainability stories every Friday. Subscribe for weekly updates at theoutdoorminimalist.com

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Advocates for the West: https://advocateswest.org

Save the Boundary Waters: https://www.savetheboundarywaters.org

Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance: https://suwa.org

When we think about environmental impacts in the outdoors, we often focus on things we can see: litter left behind, eroded trails, overcrowded trailheads. But some of the most significant impacts are invisible, and they’re showing up in places many of us consider pristine.

In episode 208 of the Outdoor Minimalist podcast, we’re talking about microplastics in remote wilderness areas and what new research is revealing about how they get there.

Joining me today is Dr. Tim Keyes.

Prior to joining Welch College of Business & Technology in 2019, Dr. Keyes was employed by General Electric as a Senior Risk Analytics Manager for 22 years, and for seven years prior to that he worked as a Senior Systems Engineer at Measurex/Honeywell. He now consults with banks and nonprofits through his company, Evergreen Business Analytics, LLC.

In addition to his professional work, Dr. Keyes leads adventure science expeditions with students to research air and water quality across the Northeast United States. He has summited all of the high peaks in the Adirondack and Catskill Mountains in New York, the Green Mountains in Vermont, and half, to date, of the high peaks in New Hampshire’s White Mountains.

Professionally, Dr. Keyes has published more than ten professional papers and holds seventeen patents related to risk analytics. His most recent refereed research was published in 2023 in the peer-reviewed Elsevier journal Heliyon. In 2025, an adventure science expedition he led received global attention for its potential impact on environmental health and backcountry recreation.

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Research: https://adkh2h.org/wp-content/uploads/Return-to-Lake-Tear-Expedition-Report-September-2025.pdf

Guardian Article: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/oct/13/microplastics-hiking-shoes-outdoor-gear

Rozalia Project: https://www.rozaliaproject.org

Footwear Collective: https://earthdna.org/home/the-footwear-collective/

Guppy Friend: https://www.patagonia.com/product/guppyfriend-microplastic-washing-bag/4260750820839.html