What does it mean to be a man? The eye-opening second half of this animated three-way conversation with Mark, Kelly, and our returning guest Jon Carl Lewis, talking about spirituality, sexuality, and the embodiment of masculinity—whether straight, queer, or trans. We explore the paradox of being simultaneously men of the world and “children of God,” balancing trusting God to help with our troubles and doing what we can in our power as well, and the need that even the strongest man has for community.

Jon Carl Lewis describes himself as “your average queer, liberative theologian and spiritual guide.” His work invites” individuals and communities into conversation around how integration of the spiritual and the sexual/erotic can enliven and reconcile people of faith to themselves, the sacred, their communities, and all of creation.” His Substack is called “Ramblings (of a Queer, Christian Contemplative) (queerchristianramblings.substack.com).

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