This episode brings the extraordinary story of an ordinary woman to a new audience. Newcastle United fan Linzi Smith was banned from her football club and questioned under caution under the Malicious Communications Act for holding a lawful gender critical belief. There was no victim. No harm. And the complaint was made on behalf of someone who might be offended. Today her ban has been lifted and she tells the full story.
We also explore Linzi's separate High Court victory against Northumbria Police after she challenged their decision to march in full uniform at Newcastle Pride. The court ruled the Chief Constable acted unlawfully and breached the duty of impartiality.
This episode examines free speech, reality, courage and the importance of policing without fear or favour.

What You Will Learn in This Episode:
✔️ How a simple reality based belief led to a club ban
✔️ Why the police interviewed her under caution despite no victim
✔️ The role of Fair Cop in helping her challenge the process
✔️ How the complaint was made on behalf of a hypothetical person
✔️ The key steps that led to Newcastle United lifting the ban

Plus, We Discuss:
💡 Linzi's High Court case against Northumbria Police and why the ruling matters
💡 The rise of non crime hate incidents and what this means for free speech
💡 BBC bias concerns and the wider culture around gender identity
💡 Why offence is not evidence and cannot be treated as a crime

Quote of the Episode:
"Offence is not harm. Offence is not a crime. And no woman should be questioned under caution for a belief rooted in reality."

Resources Mentioned:

Free Speech Union
Fair Cop
High Court judgement on police impartiality
Coverage from national media - The Telegraph

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From confronting family dynamics to defending free speech, Katy brings a lifetime of experience to the table. No spin. No shutdowns. Just proper conversation.

👉 If you've ever felt stuck between staying silent and speaking your truth, this one's for you.

🎧 What You'll Learn:
✔️ How to approach controversial topics without confrontation
✔️ Why disagreement doesn't mean disrespect
✔️ How to deal with public backlash and online conflict
✔️ Why humour and curiosity still matter
✔️ The difference between "having a conversation" and delivering a lecture

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🕰️ Timestamps:
00:00 Introduction and Early Life
00:46 Navigating Identity and Family Dynamics
01:53 The Complexity of Conversations
03:39 Confrontation vs. Conversation
07:43 The Importance of Free Speech
11:27 Changing Beliefs and Open-Mindedness
18:47 Navigating Political and Social Nuances
32:50 Exploring Human Rights in Gender Debates
33:46 Finding Common Ground in Disagreements
34:41 Personal Experiences with Differing Opinions
35:56 The Importance of Open-Minded Conversations
37:26 Navigating Public Discourse and Backlash
44:53 The Role of Humor in Sensitive Topics
55:28 The Impact of Algorithms on Social Discourse
59:07 Encouraging Meaningful Conversations
01:01:38 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

Episode Description
In this must-listen episode of the Penny Dee Podcast, women's health advocate and author Heather Coppard joins Penny to shine a light on a hidden crisis affecting millions: persistent vulval and vaginal pain.

Heather shares her personal journey through vulvodynia, pelvic floor dysfunction, and chronic vaginal pain, from years of misdiagnosis to a devastating experience with a gynaecologist who claimed the pain was "in her head."

Now a hypnotherapist and author of Optimising Recovery from Vulval and Vaginal Pain, Heather helps women across the UK who feel unheard, dismissed, and broken by their healthcare experiences.

This episode is essential for anyone struggling with chronic pain, women's health issues, or fighting to be taken seriously in the medical system.

Quote of the Episode:
"The doctor didn't even look at me - he told my husband the pain was in my head. What if I hadn't had his support?" – Heather Coppard

What You'll Learn in This Episode:
✔️ Why up to 25% of women may suffer from vulvodynia or vaginal pain, but most never talk about it.
✔️ How Heather's experience with misdiagnosis and misogyny in healthcare pushed her to leave nursing and write a book.
✔️ The reality of pelvic pain, from not being able to wear underwear to giving up driving.
✔️ How hypnotherapy for pain management became a key part of Heather's recovery.
✔️ The importance of reclaiming your voice in medical spaces.

💡 PLUS, We Discuss:
💡 What to do if your doctor won't listen
💡 How chronic pain impacts relationships and identity
💡 The uniform of pain: why so many women wear floaty skirts

🔗 Resources & Mentions in This Episode:
📘 Amazon Buy the book Optimising Recovery from Vulval and Vaginal Pain by Heather Coppard
🌐 Female Health Hypnotherapy (Stockport, UK) – Support for women's pain and trauma

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🌐Heather Coppard Website
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