Brittany Bateman joins Pop Apologists for a raw, funny, and emotional deep dive into fame, family estrangement, Mormon roots, and her headline-making relationship with Jared. She opens up about rebuilding her bond with daughter Olivia, navigating public criticism, and the reality of dating on reality TV. Brittany also breaks down the now-infamous plane incident in chilling detail, including firsthand reactions from flight attendants and passengers. After the interview, Lauren and Chanler unpack Bethenny Frankel’s controversial Architectural Digest feature and viral clapback. The episode wraps with major celebrity updates including Alex Earle, Katy Perry & Justin Trudeau, and Timothée Chalamet & Kylie Jenner.

01:00 — Brittany Bateman Joins ❄️

02:30 — Fame & Fan Reactions 📸

04:00 — Mormon Movies & Acting Roots 🎬

05:30 — Vulnerability & Online Criticism 💬

07:00 — Daughter Olivia & Estrangement 👩‍👧

09:30 — Divorce, Remarriage & Faith ⛪️

11:00 — The Jared Relationship Update 💔➡️❤️

13:30 — Breakups, Apologies & Healing 🛠️

15:30 — Jared’s Reputation with the Cast 👀

17:00 — Donny Osmond & Mormon Celebs 🎤

20:00 — Singing, Flirting & Viral Chaos 🎶💄

25:00 — The Plane Incident Begins ✈️🔥

29:00 — Crying, PTSD & Seatmate Witness 👨‍✈️

33:00 — Meredith’s Story & Viewer Reactions 🎭

35:00 — Why SLC Is Peak Bravo 🏔️🍿

37:00 — Mormon 3.0 & Returning to Church 🔄

38:30 — Where to Find Brittany Online 📱

🔥 After Show Pop Culture Rundown

40:00 — Bethenny’s AD Home Reveal 🏡

43:00 — Neutral Decor vs Airbnb Chic 🛋️

46:00 — Chevron Wallpaper & Cabana Room 🌊

49:30 — Bethenny Clapback & Real Estate Flex 💰

53:30 — Market Timing vs Design Talent 📊

55:00 — Alex Earle & Braxton Breakup 💔

57:30 — Fame, Youth & Dating Pressure 🌟

59:00 — Katy Perry & Justin Trudeau Go Public 💕

01:01:30 — PDA, Politics & Side-Eye 👀

01:03:30 — Timothée & Kylie Red Carpet 🧡

01:06:30 — Club Chalamet & Fan Culture 🕵️‍♀️

01:09:00 — Parasocial Obsession Talk 🧠

01:12:00 — Celebrity Stalking Line Debate 🚨

01:14:30 — Pronunciation Fails & Callouts 🗣️

01:17:30 — Fact-Checking the Podcast ✅❓

01:20:30 — Taylor Swift Domain Confession 🌐

01:23:30 — Pop Culture Burnout Chat 🫠

01:26:30 — Social Media Spiral 📲

01:29:00 — Reality TV as Escapism 📺

01:31:30 — Final Hot Takes 🔥

01:35:00 — Listener Feedback 💌

01:38:00 — Wrap-Up & Sign-Off 🎤✨

Clean Simple Eats: Visit CleanSimpleEats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 at checkout for 20% off your order.

EarlyBird CBD: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code PA20 for 20% off.

Athletic Greens: Head to https://drinkag1.com/APOLOGISTS to get the welcome kit, a Morning Person hat, a bottle of Vitamin D3+K2, a AG1 Flavor Sampler and you’ll get to try their new sleep supplement AGZ for free.

DripDrop: Go to https://dripdrop.com/ and use promo code POP for 20% off your first order.

Functional Health: Visit www.functionhealth.com/POPAPOLOGISTS or use gift code POPAPOLOGISTS100 at sign-up to own your health.

Progressive: Visit https://www.Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance.

Wayfair: https://www.Wayfair.com Wayfair. Every style. Every home.

Macy's: Shop at https://www.macys.com or in stores now!

Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

01:00 — Why Millennials Are Obsessed with Lily Again 🌸🎧

Context-setting for her career resurgence and West End Girl.

02:00 — Lily’s Turbulent Upbringing 🏚️➡️🎬

Council housing, financial struggle, divorced parents, and early industry proximity.

04:00 — Nepo Baby? Well-Connected? Both? 🤷‍♀️✨

Exploring Lily’s privilege vs. hardship.

01:01:00 — The Cheating Revelations + Owning Her Story 💔📖

Lily explains why she disclosed everything in her memoir ("I'm sleeping with prostitutes…").

01:02:00 — The Sobriety Era: Parenting, Presence & Stability 🌱👩‍👧

Her reflections on missing the highs but finally feeling grounded.

01:03:00 — Lily + David Harbour: Raya Match to Marriage ❤️🔥

Their connection, his quotes about her presence and vibrancy.

01:08:00 — The Open Marriage Era & Internet Reactions 👀💬

You revisit your past TikTok takes + new empathy after learning her story.

01:09:00 — Critics Weigh In: The Guardian & Rolling Stone 🌟🎵

Five-star reviews and why West End Girl hits emotionally + musically.

01:10:00 — Favorite Tracks & Lyrical Moments 🎶✨

“Dallas Major” stuck in your heads, the dignity lyric from “Let You Win.”

01:11:00 — Final Thoughts + Swiftie Detour (Because of Course) 🫶🐍

All roads lead back to Taylor; closing the deep dive.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren interviews Melissa Coleman (“Mrs. Derm”), a no-BS skincare voice married to renowned dermatologist Dr. Patrick Coleman. Mrs. Derm reveals her minimalist routine, Retin-A secrets, melasma fix, why EU sunscreens leave the U.S. in the dust, and her unfiltered takes on plastic surgery and celebrity facelifts.

00:00 — Why Skincare Feels So Confusing: Setting the Record Straight 🎙️

A warm intro + what this episode will actually teach you (and why it matters).

00:14 — The Real AM Routine: What You Should Use (and What You Should Ditch) 🧴

Simple, effective steps for every skin type — no 12-step nonsense, no marketing fluff.

00:26 — Fine Lines, “Smoker Lines,” and the Truth About Genetics vs. Habit 😮‍💨

Who gets them, why they happen, and what can actually reduce them.

00:28 — Can You Start Retin-A Later in Life and Still See Results? 🚭✨

Melissa’s own late-start Retin-A story — proof it’s never too late.

00:29 — What Retin-A Really Does: Texture, Pores, Pigment & Tightness 🧪

A science-backed breakdown of what improves, what doesn’t, and how long it takes.

01:14:00 — The Ageless Woman Story: What Monthly Peels Can Achieve 😳✨

A real example of jaw-dropping skin transformation — and what was behind it.

01:15:00 — Peels vs. Lasers: When Each One Works Best 🔥

A roadmap for choosing the right treatment for clarity, texture, or anti-aging.

01:36:00 — LED Masks: What NASA Actually Studied vs. What Instagram Sells You 🚫💡

Cutting through the hype: when (and if) LED truly does anything.

01:41:00 — Exosomes: The $3k Treatment People Regret Most 💸

The split-face experiment that exposed whether they actually work.

02:13:00 — Celebrity Facelift Discourse: Emily Blunt & the Internet’s Double Standard 💬🔥

Why women get dragged online for procedures — and Melissa’s viral take.

02:14:00 — Why Many Women Keep Their Cosmetic Surgery Private 👀

A candid look at judgment, safety, and privacy in the beauty world.

02:28:00 — The “Mask Slipping” Aging Theory: A Simple Way to Understand Facial Aging 🎭

A visual analogy that explains what’s falling, shifting, and why treatments work.

02:29:00 — Final Advice: What to Focus on at Any Age 👋✨

Her practical, no-BS roadmap for skincare, treatments, and aging gracefully.

Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

(00:00:00) — Airline rage: JetBlue snacks, Delta trauma, and Biscoff as a war crime.

(00:03:30) — Zach Bryan’s sobriety post + Brianna Chickenfry déjà vu.

(00:11:05) — Queen Camilla’s “weight loss” gaffe + hypnotist diets of the British elite.

(00:17:10) — Meghan Markle’s Harper’s Bazaar profile: duchess announcements & jam philosophy.

(00:26:40) — The NYT surrogacy scandal: forged signatures, Zoom fraud, and 15 children.

(00:37:12) — Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: Jessi, Jordan’s TikTok blackmail, and a chaotic marriage.

(00:41:55) — Meghan King loses custody: the strange CPS timeline.

(00:44:16) — Bill Belichick at 24-year-old girlfriend’s adult cheer nationals + Jordon Hudson’s glam.

(00:47:33) — RHOSLC: Todd & Bronwyn’s surreal open-marriage convo.

(00:53:40) — Britani vs. Jared: creek fights, wedge heels, and fifth-grade flirting.

(00:56:00) — Lisa & John Barlow: marriage unraveling on camera.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

(00:00:00) – Layla Joins the Show: Season 3 reactions, Jessie confrontation setup, and Marciano bombshell fallout.

(00:05:12) – The Kiss, the Cialis & the Lie Detector: Jessie’s texts, Jordan overhearing everything, and why Marciano’s Botox face wasn’t giving anything away.

(00:10:24) – Demi vs. The Villa Timeline: The accusations, the confusion, the face-times, and why the girls felt emotionally manipulated.

(00:15:36) – Is There a Layla & Demi Friendship Left?: Layla breaks down boundaries, cordial coexistence, and the moment she stopped believing Demi’s version.

(00:26:00) – Whitney and Layla on Dancing With the Stars: How Whitney’s season arc shifted, why she ran to St. George, and where friendships stand now.

(00:31:12) – Filming Logistics & The Reality of MomTok Fame: Five-day shooting weeks, who films the most, why kids stay off camera, and protecting boundaries.

(00:36:24) – The Mormon Community, Image Management & Garments Era: Initial backlash, cultural shifts, and how converting helped Layla during a dark chapter.

(00:41:36) – Hair Journeys, Identity & Reclaiming Self-Image: Layla’s switch to a new hairstylist, the emotional weight of fitting in, and the sweetest glow-up.

(00:46:48) – Sex, Orgasm Taboo & Mormon Girlhood: Vibrators, sexual shame, becoming orgasmic, and the DMs that poured in after Layla opened up.

(00:52:00) – Taylor, Dakota & the Endless Loop: Did Dakota hook up with a “friend”? Did he hook up with Leanne? (No.) Their impossible chemistry examined.

(00:56:12) – Post-Interview Chat: Lauren and Chanler grace us with their presence and chat about the weekly topics.

(01:10:50) – BravoCon Energy & The Return of Flipping Out: Jeff Lewis is coming back, Chandler battles loyalty to Heather McDonald, and the girls debate the greatest shows on Bravo.

(01:14:50) – Wendy Williams: Conservatorship, Not Dementia: The reveal that Wendy doesn’t have dementia, $200k Uber Eats bill, and how banks flag erratic spending.

(01:20:00) – The Tina Brown Era Returns: Why Tina is core to Pop Apologists history, her NYT interview, and why they’re obsessed.

(01:26:00) – Queen Elizabeth Shielding Prince Andrew: How the late Queen’s loyalty shielded Andrew, creating an environment where he stayed safely tucked behind palace walls even as pressure mounted.

Clean Simple Eats: Visit CleanSimpleEats.com (http://cleansimpleeats.com/) and use code POPAPOLOGISTS10 at checkout for 10% off your order.

EarlyBird CBD: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com (http://earlybirdcbd.com/) and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off.

Cozy Earth Direct: Head to https://www.cozyearth.com (http://cozyearth.com/) and use our code POP for 40% off!

Progressive: Visit https://www.Progressive.com (https://www.progressive.com/) to see if you could save on car insurance.

Quince: Go to Quince.com/APOLOGIST (http://quince.com/APOLOGIST) for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.

Booking.com: Book today on the site or in the app!

Macy's: Shop at https://www.macys.com (https://www.macys.com/) or in stores now!

Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off your next gift at https://www.uncommongoods.com/podcast/pop!

Wayfair: https://www.Wayfair.com (https://www.wayfair.com/) Wayfair. Every style. Every home.

Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chanler are back, and the delusion is in-season. From Golden Bachelor heartbreak to Kardashian conspiracies, the girls spiral through the week’s most unserious chaos — with morally corrupt pranks, PR flops, and billionaire birthday parties galore.

Lauren kicks things off with a sick-in-the-head deep dive into Gerry Turner’s memoir (yes, the Golden Bachelor himself) and her impassioned “Justice for Theresa” movement. The sisters unpack Lauren’s morally bankrupt auntie era and Pookie & Jett’s Hermès-themed first birthday party for Paloma. Lastly, the sisters break down Kris Jenner’s 70th bash — complete with appearances from Jeff Bezos, Meghan Markle, and Kim K’s TikTok vlog.

They also dive into the All’s Fair premiere, Kim’s alleged bar exam failure, Shay Mitchell’s controversial kids’ skincare line, and a Taylor Swift wedding theory that might just send the internet into cardiac arrest.

(00:00:00) — Tuesday confessionals, NYC weather updates, and prepping for the Layla interview.

(00:03:42) — Lauren’s Golden Bachelor memoir deep dive + the “Smoothies for Theresa” merch moment.

(00:09:15) — The $20 prank that turned Lauren into a morally bankrupt auntie.

(00:14:50) — Pookie & Jett’s Hermès birthday: the influencer-industrial complex strikes again.

(00:22:11) — Kris Jenner’s 70th birthday: Jeff Bezos hosting, Harry & Meghan’s attendance, and Kim K’s party vlog.

(00:27:39) — Meghan Markle pregnancy rumor + Kim’s post-party photo dump drama.

(00:33:08) — Kim fails the bar exam: ChatGPT-coded announcement + “future lawyer” jokes gone wrong.

(00:40:25) — All’s Fair review: Kim’s camp masterpiece + the unrealistic “ass-out” suit.

(00:52:19) — Shay Mitchell’s kids’ skincare line and the unhinged influencer logic behind it.

(00:59:34) — Taylor Swift’s rumored bridesmaids list + wedding speculation spirals.

Clean Simple Eats: Visit CleanSimpleEats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS10 at checkout for 10% off your order.

EarlyBird CBD: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off.

Progressive: Visit https://www.Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance.

Booking.com: Book today on the site or in the app!

Macy's: Shop at https://www.macys.com or in stores now!

Uncommon Goods: Get 15% off your next gift at https://www.uncommongoods.com/podcast/pop!

Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren’s back from a 24-hour flu, a hangover, and a full-blown moving meltdown — and somehow lived to tell the tale. Meanwhile, Chanler holds down the fort (and books an exclusive with their celebrity sister, Courtney Grow). Before Chan interviews Courtney, the girls dive in to a couple of headlining stories. From Hugh Jackman’s ex plotting a bombshell tell-all, to David Harbour’s cringe Esquire interview, to Prince Andrew finally being stripped of his titles — the girls cover every messy man making headlines this week.

They also get into Meghan Markle’s latest Page Six rumor, the Vanderpump Rules reboot that nobody asked for, and the rise and fall of The Row’s “cool girl” mystique — before Courtney joins for a deep dive on Botox, luxury retail horror stories, and why she’s done being treated like gum on someone’s shoe.

(00:00:00) — Lauren’s weekend from hell: hungover move, the flu, and Kagen’s “water safety training.”

(00:08:27) — Deborra-Lee Furness’ revenge memoir: Hugh Jackman fallout + “shop that tell-all, baby.”

(00:11:44) — David Harbour’s Esquire interview, Lily Allen’s comeback, and the “artist excuse” for adultery.

(00:15:33) — Millie Bobby Brown’s harassment claim against David Harbour + Netflix’s silence.

(00:34:57) — Prince Andrew stripped of royal titles: why the palace only acts when it’s self-preservation.

(00:40:10) — Vanderpump Rules reboot: why lightning never strikes twice.

(00:46:19) — Courtney Grow joins: Botox, Sculptra, and exosome intel.

(00:54:00) — The Row drama: influencer backlash, jelly shoe horror stories, and sample-sale delusion.

(01:08:00) — Luxury retail icks: “oh honey, we don’t messenger to Brooklyn.”

(01:10:00) — Marriage after four kids: sex, exhaustion, and staying connected.

FTC:

Clean Simple Eats: Visit CleanSimpleEats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS10 at checkout for 10% off your order.

EarlyBird CBD: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off.

Booking.com: Book today on the site or in the app!

Better Help: This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off your first month at https://www.BetterHelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS

Nature’s Sunshine: 20% off your first order plus free shipping. Go to http://naturessunshine.com and use the code POP at checkout.

Quince: Go to http://Quince.com/APOLOGIST for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.

Macy's: Shop at https://www.macys.com or in stores now!

Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.