A competitive plastic surgery reality show. Perhaps premise kind of sells itself. It certainly did in 2004, when 15 million people tuned in to watch this darkly comic trainwreck. How did “The Swan,” even happen? And, perhaps less puzzling, why? Joining Tess to navigate the wild west of 2004 reality TV is comic, actor, and writer Jackie Johnson (Natch Beaut @jackiemichellejohnson). Grab tickets to Jackie’s show “How to Get a Second Husband” at the Elysian September 24th!

Watch “The Dark Side of Reality TV: ‘The Swan’” on Vice.

Watch season 1 of “The Swan”

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This timeline sucks, yes? This week, we’re doing something a little different, a quick time travel back to the world of September 15, 2003. Tess flips through an US Weekly from this glorious time, when Madonna and Britney had just kissed at the VMAs, Beyonce was just starting to go solo, and life was pretty good.

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In part two of this Mariah tale, we get into the nitty gritty of what actually went down between Mariah Carey and Eminem. Did Mariah and Marshall Mathers actually date? Why is Eminem so obsessed with her? Was it all worth it, for us to get a music video of Mariah in drag as Eminem? We’ll say this - beware of all Detroit “touchdowns.” Joining Tess to chat through this long, bizarre and often one-sided feud is the actor Kara Luiz (“The Studio”, “Hacks”) @karaluiz.

Read “The Meaning of Mariah Carey”

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Mariah Carey is, in many ways, a definitive diva. She’s got the pipes, she’s got the style, and the attitude. Behind Mariah’s coy smile and wind blown curls, though, there is a person who has survived extraordinary circumstances. As Mariah Carey was blowing up as one of the most famous and successful recording artists in the world, she was living a double life - one that belies an all-too-familiar power imbalance. Joining Tess to chat through Mariah’s early life, which ultimately inadvertently leads her to get mixed up with the rapper Eminem, is the actor Kara Luiz (“The Studio”, “Hacks”) @karaluiz.

Read “The Meaning of Mariah Carey”

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“Rumors,” is an apropos name for the dream of an album that was born of two and a half couples all sharing a tiny recording studio while actively doing all of the cocaine. Rumors, indeed, have long circulated that while Fleetwood Mac was creating its opus, each member was also actively destroying their lives. What really happened in those powder filled studio walls? Joining Tess to talk through this tale of creativity, soul mates, and betrayal is the comic and podcaster Jackie Zebrowski (Jack that Worm) the Page 7 podcast, and Who’s the Bitch podcast.

Read Mick Fleetwood’s autobiography “Play On.”

Read the Stevie Nicks biography “Gold Dust Woman”

Watch the documentary “Fleetwood Mac: Rumors”

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In the past few years, two big entertainment stories stand out as exceptionally shocking and horrifying: the wrongful conservatorship of Britney Spears, and the alleged large-scale sex trafficking syndicate of Sean Diddy Combs. It’s chilling then, to consider that both the business affairs of Sean Combs and Britney Spears were handled by the same business management company: TriStar Sports and Entertainment. Who is at the helm of this mega-powerful company, and what is behind their unconventional business practices?

To learn more about the backstory behind Lou Taylor and early early employers, find Melanie Carlson’s substack here.

Watch the New York Times documentary “Controlling Britney Spears” here.

Read the New York Times article "Britney Spears Felt Trapped. Her Business Manager Benefited," here.

For an extreme deep dive into Britney’s conservatorship, listen to Tess’ podcast “Toxic: The Britney Spears Story.”

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“Sex and the City,” did more than usher in the ‘golden’ era of HBO. It created characters that endeared themselves to countless viewers with their depth, relatability, and deeply enviable wardrobes. Despite the fact that this is a show about friends and friendship, however, rumors have persisted for years that a long-standing feud exists between two of its stars: Sarah Jessica Parker and Kim Cattrall. So what’s actually behind the gossip? Joining Tess to talk the fab four is comic M.K. Paulsen (@mkpaulsen).

Read The Telegraph’s article “Sex and the City Movie: Exclusive On Set Report”

Read Variety’s “And Just Like That Finale Spoilers”

Read Elle’s feature “A Timeline of Kim Cattrall and Sarah Jessica Parker's Rumored Sex and the City Feud”

Read NY Posts’ “Inside the Mean Girls Culture That Destroyed Sex and the City”

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“La Veneno,” aka Cristina Ortiz Rodriguez, was a tour de force and a revolutionary. She delivered jokes flawlessly, covered her nipples barely, and changed the way Spain viewed trans people. Joining Tess to talk through the legendary life and mysterious death of Cristina Ortiz Rodriguez is writer and performer Tamara Yajia @tamarayajia (“Acapulco”; “This Fool”) and author of the new memoir “Cry for Me, Argentina: My Life As A Failed Child Star.”

Watch the HBO series “Veneno”

Read “Digo: Ni Puta Ni Santa: Las Memorias De La Veneno”

Read “Bad Girls” by Camilla Sosa Villada

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