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 Live Q&A Calls with Bill Hartman at http://uhp.network Episode Overview In this episode, Chris and Bill scrutinize the “Four Stages of Competence” model — a familiar framework in coaching and skill acquisition that assumes learners progress linearly from ignorance to mastery. They unpack its HR origins, explain why it lacks empirical grounding, and offer a counterpoint rooted in systems thinking. Rather than stages, they propose a lens of behavioral recognition: what you see is always a solution — it just may not be desirable. This discussion reframes learning as a dynamic reorganization of behavior in response to constraint, not a climb up a competence ladder. Key Topics & Chapter Highlights 00:00 – Why We’re Talking About “Learning” Chris introduces the episode theme — learning models, coaching cues, and why it’s time to re-evaluate default assumptions. 04:00 – The “Four Stages” Origin Story Bill describes how the popular learning stages (unconscious incompetence → unconscious competence) emerged from 1970s HR training — not research. 07:00 – Linearity vs. Complexity The central critique: human learning is not linear. The model imposes artificial order on what is fundamentally a dynamic, complex adaptive system. 10:00 – “Incompetence” Isn’t Incompetent Every observed behavior is a solution. Even inefficient movement solves a problem within a person’s constraints — structurally or contextually. 14:00 – Coaching Without Context Fails Chris and Bill discuss how many coaching strategies fail when they don’t respect structure. You can’t cue someone out of constraint they don’t know they’re solving. 18:00 – Behavioral Recognition Over Labels Bill emphasizes that his quadrants aren’t stages. They’re representations of observable behavior — which helps tailor tasks and constraints more effectively. 23:00 – You’re Not Coaching a Blank Slate Chris makes the point that what you're seeing isn’t raw potential — it's a system using the only strategies it currently has access to. 28:00 – The Limits of Cueing A coach’s words can’t override structural or energetic constraints. You have to meet the system where it is — and shape the conditions around it. 32:00 – Adaptive Behavior, Not Error What’s often labeled "wrong" or "dysfunctional" may be adaptive. Recognizing this changes how we view interventions and outcomes. 36:00 – Evolving the Model (Again) Bill recounts how his own quadrant framework evolved as he tested it — referencing influence from Dave Snowden’s Cynefin model of complexity. 41:00 – Interventions as Design, Not Correction Once you understand what the system is solving for, you can build tasks that shift its strategy, rather than try to force behavior through coaching alone. 45:00 – Wrapping Up: The System Solves Itself They close by reinforcing that learning is not about filling gaps — it’s about reorganizing behavior under constraint, and the coach’s job is to create the right container for that to happen. Key Takeaways The “Four Stages” Are a Mental Shortcut They may feel intuitive, but they describe neither how humans behave nor how systems adapt. Their linearity oversimplifies learning. Every Behavior Is a Solution Movement — even if awkward or compensatory — reflects the best available solution to the system’s current constraints. That’s competence, just not your preferred version. Learning Is Emergent, Not Staged Adaptation doesn’t follow steps. It unfolds in response to pressure, structure, and context. That process is inherently non-linear. Observations Over Classifications Labels like “incompetent” blind us to what's actually happening. Watch what people do. Understand what it's solving for. Models Should Breathe Even the quadrant model evolved through testing. If your model isn’t helping you see clearly, evolve it — or discard it. LEARN MORE JOIN the UHP Network to learn directly from Bill through articles, videos and courses. http://UHP.network FOLLOW Bill on IG to stay up to date on when his courses are coming out: IG: https://www.instagram.com/bill_hartman_pt/ TRAIN WITH BILL Interested in the only training program based on Bill Hartman’s Model? Join the rapidly growing community who are reconstructing their bodies at https://www.reconu.co FREE EBOOK by Bill about the guiding principles of training when you fill out your sign-up form. http://www.reconu.co SUBSCRIBE for even more helpful content: YT: https://www.youtube.com/@BillHartmanPT IG: https://www.instagram.com/bill_hartman_pt/ FB: https://www.facebook.com/BillHartmanPT WEB: https://billhartmanpt.com/ Podcast audio: https://open.spotify.com/show/7cJM6v5S38RLroac6BQjrd?si=eca3b211dafc4202 https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/reconsider-with-bill-hartman/id1662268221 or download with YT Premium

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