What if you did everything “right” and still ended up with heartbreak you can’t pray away? We sit down with author and leader Joanna Meyer to talk about the gap between faith and reality—where singleness stretches for decades, infertility closes cherished doors, and a pastor’s family breaks apart. Joanna doesn’t offer quick fixes. She invites us to strip faith to the studs, set down performance, and meet a Savior who knows suffering from the inside.

Across this conversation, we unlearn the myth that a faithful life always trends upward. Joanna shows how American ideals of constant progress can distort discipleship, making us equate God’s favor with outcomes. Instead, we turn to the older, deeper path of lament—naming what is broken, turning toward God, and choosing hope even when circumstances don’t shift.

If this conversation met you in a hard place, share it with a friend who needs company in the tension. Subscribe, leave a review, and tell us: where are you learning to lament and still hope?

What if the change you’ve been chasing isn’t about trying harder but being made new from the inside out? Michelle joins us to tell a raw, hope-filled story of addiction and shame transformed by grace.

Together, we unpack some tools for sustained sobriety, how to keep pursuing God when people disappoint, and the daily practices that keep temptation small by keeping the truth close.

If you or someone you love is wrestling with addiction, this conversation offers a path forward grounded in grace and a Savior who changes hearts before habits. Listen, share with a friend who needs hope, and leave a review to help more people find this story of real, lasting freedom.