Writer, Curator, and Director of Pier 24 Photography in San Francisco, Allie Haeusslein, joined me at the 2024 Chico Review and we discussed how writing about and curating photography became her passion and we talk specifically about the show, Stacy Mehrfar: The Moon Belongs to Everyone at Filter Photo, to highlight Allie's approach to curating and working with artists. We also talk about how Chris McCall invited her to be the Co-Director at Pier 24, and Allie reflects on her time at the famed institution, working with Chris McCall, and on the last show, Turning the Page, before Pier 24 closes its doors in 2025. And because we were at Chico, Allie shares some advice about following up with a good portfolio review experience.

https://www.alliehaeusslein.com | https://pier24.org | Mehrfar's show - https://www.alliehaeusslein.com/exhibitions/project-one-ephnc-8h3gb

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Allie Haeusslein is the Director of Pier 24 Photography in San Francisco, the largest space dedicated to photography in North America. Her writing has appeared in publications such as Aperture, British Journal of Photography, ART21 Magazine, and Foam Magazine.

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Photographer, writer, and educator, Tom Griggs, and I met at AIPAD to talk about his book, A Creature Obeys a Creature That Wants, published by Mesaestándar. A Creature Obeys a Creature That Wants is an exploration of generational depression experienced through Tom’s paternal side of his family. It weaves together text and images from Tom with text and images from his father to tell a spiritually infused story of his family. We also talk about his newest book, El Inquilino, Mexico City, published by Kris Graves Projects which was revealed at AIPAD the very day we were there.

https://www.tomgriggs.net/books - https://www.krisgravesprojects.com/book/mexico-city-by-tom-griggs - https://www.instagram.com/griggstom/ - https://www.mesaestandar.com

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Tom Griggs is a photographer, writer, and educator born in the United States and currently living between Medellín, Colombia and Mexico City. He has spent much of the last thirteen years teaching at the Universidad de Antioquia and at Fundación Universitaria Bellas Artes in Medellín, and at the ICP online. His last photobook, A Creature Obeys a Creature That Wants, was named one of the best photobooks of 2023 by Mark Power and Alec Soth.

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Continuing with my recordings at the 2024 Chico Review, Ben Brody joins me to talk about his two books, Attention Servicemember and 300m both published by Mass Books which was started by Ben and Peter van Agtmael. We talk about Ben’s experience as an Army photographer during the American war in Iraq and why he chose to be a civilian freelance photographer during the war in Afghanistan. Ben and I talk about how Attention Servicemember and 300m are part of his self-reckonining with his role in creating propaganda. We also talk about his work with The GroundTruth Project, an organization dedicated to local journalism in under covered communities. Note: Attention Servicemember was first published by Red Hook Editions.

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Ben Brody is an independent photographer, educator, and picture editor working on long-form projects related to the American wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and their aftermath. He is the Director of Photography for The GroundTruth Project and Report for America, and a co-founder of Mass Books.

His first book, Attention Servicemember, was shortlisted for the 2019 Aperture - Paris Photo First Book Award and is now in its second edition.

Ben holds an MFA from Hartford Art School's International Low-Residency Photography program. He resides in western Massachusetts.

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