What if every moment of your life was truly yours?

In this powerful episode of The Real Retirement Show, we sit down with the legendary George Kinder — father of the life planning movement, mindfulness teacher, and global force for authentic living.

With heart, humility, and poetic clarity, George shares how to design a life rooted in freedom, purpose, and presence — and why your dream of living fully can’t wait until retirement.

From the serenity of his New England cabin to the bustling streets of London, George reveals his journey of awakening, the power behind his EVOKE® process, and why the future of retirement — and humanity — depends on trustworthiness and values-aligned action.

We explore:

• How to uncover your true purpose and make it real
• The three domains of freedom — and why they matter now more than ever
• Why fiduciary duty belongs not just in finance, but in every institution
• How mindfulness and deep listening shape our ability to lead, connect, and transform

Whether you're reimagining your next chapter or simply seeking deeper meaning, this conversation will awaken something in you.

Listen in — and begin the journey to your most meaningful life.

00:00 Introduction to the Three Domains of Freedom

01:35 Welcome to The Real Retirement Show

01:45 Meet George Kinder: Pioneer of Life Planning

02:56 George Kinder's Journey and Philosophy

06:23 The Power of Trustworthiness and Freedom

08:51 Maintaining Passion and Purpose

10:05 The Serenity Cabin and Nature's Influence

13:37 The Three Dimensions of Freedom Workshops

20:57 Global Impact and Cultural Embrace

23:35 Reflections on Age and Passion

25:01 The Evolution of Fiduciary in Business

26:14 Building Trust in Client Relationships

27:06 The Financial Therapy Movement

28:33 The Importance of Trustworthiness

28:42 Kitchen Table Conversations on Fiduciary

30:32 Life Planning for Everyone

31:47 The Role of Trust in Financial Advice

36:46 Humanity and Global Communication

42:10 The Impact of AI on Humanity

44:25 The Future of Fiduciary Standards

46:57 The Three Domains of Freedom

49:35 Closing Thoughts and Future Meetings

About George Kinder

George Kinder is a globally renowned thought leader, author, and mindfulness teacher, widely recognized as the father of the Life Planning movement. He is the founder of the Kinder Institute of Life Planning and creator of the EVOKE® process, which helps individuals align their financial lives with their deepest values and dreams. With over 50 years of mindfulness practice and decades of experience as a financial advisor, George has trained thousands of professionals across 30+ countries to lead with purpose, empathy, and trust. Through his books, teachings, and art, he continues to inspire people around the world to live with greater freedom, authenticity, and meaning.

Website:

https://www.georgekinder.com/

https://www.kinderinstitute.com/

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In this episode of The Real Retirement Show, hosts Yasmin and Kathleen welcome Polly Chandler, a leadership development and transition coach. They explore Polly's journey from academia to coaching, highlighting how she helps individuals navigate major life transitions by leveraging their strengths. Polly shares her innovative approaches, including the use of the StrengthsFinder tool and her concept of a 'Hope Journal,' to inspire people to discover their true calling and find joy and purpose. The conversation delves into topics such as addressing career transitions, finding hope, combating fears, and realizing one's potential using a strengths-based approach.

00:00 Overcoming Roadblocks and Finding Purpose

01:27 Welcome to The Real Retirement Show

02:10 Introducing Polly Chandler: A Journey of Reinvention

04:25 Polly's Transition from Academia to Coaching

09:02 The Hope Journal: Finding Hope and Purpose

14:08 Strengths-Based Approach to Life Transitions

22:31 Exploring Strengths and Individualization

23:04 Coaching Through Transitions

23:39 Energy and Alignment

24:20 Understanding and Utilizing Strengths

26:53 Navigating Roadblocks and Comparisons

31:43 The Role of Community and Mentorship

32:35 Optimism, Hope, and Action Plans

39:04 Finding Your Tribe and Passion

42:27 Final Thoughts and Anchors

About Polly Chandler

Polly Chandler is a Leadership Development and Transition Coach for Polly Chandler Coaching. This career path evolved from an intentional decision to focus on what energizes her most: coaching, mentoring and training facilitation. Her previous career was in higher education where she served as the Chair of the Department of Management and Director of the MBA in Sustainability at Antioch University New England.

Polly now coaches individuals and trains teams in many sectors. She is particularly interested in helping people to navigate personal and professional transitions. Her speciality areas are strengths based leadership development, post career reinvention, and serving people and the planet.

Website: http://pollychandlercoaching.com

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/pchandler1

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In this episode of The Real Retirement Show, hosts Yasmin and Kathleen delve into the evolving concept of retirement with guest Marilyn Hintsa. Marilyn shares her personal and professional journey, highlighting her pivot from a corporate career to becoming a retirement coach. She discusses the pressures and expectations surrounding retirement, emphasizing the importance of personal choice and rejecting societal 'shoulds.' Marilyn also introduces her initiative, Next Chapter Dialogues, which offers group sessions encouraging retirees to explore life after work. Through meaningful conversations and community support, Marilyn helps clients find joy and purpose in their post-career lives. The episode underscores the value of direct conversation, shared experiences, and stepping out of one’s comfort zone.

00:00 Introduction: Rethinking Retirement

00:51 Welcome to The Real Retirement Show

01:35 Meet Marilyn Hintsa: A New Path in Retirement

02:43 Marilyn's Journey into Coaching

05:17 Challenges and Insights in Retirement Coaching

06:24 The Importance of Group Dynamics

07:15 Mindset Shifts and Overcoming Fear

14:05 Purpose in Retirement

21:48 Creating Safe Spaces for Vulnerability

28:34 Final Thoughts and Farewell

About Marilyn Hintsa

Marilyn has been on her own retirement journey since late 2019 when she was unexpected “early retired” from a corporate career. Not ready to go out to pasture, she became certified as a leadership coach, decided to use her new skills to help her contemporaries lead themselves into their post-career lives, and set up her practice, ULeadU Post Career Pathing, in 2021. Since then, her practice has evolved and recently launched Next Chapter Dialogues, a weekly, Zoom-based, guided discussion group that people join on a monthly subscription basis. Next Chapter Dialogues is a powerful opportunity for people anywhere on a retirement journey to travel together in community and, with Marilyn’s guidance, explore topics related to life after work, aging and longevity.

Website: https://www.uleadu.ca/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hintsa/

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