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Justice feels distant until it isn’t. We open the doors to a courtroom few ever truly see, where trauma arrives with every case and formality—the wig, the gown, the ritual—exists to contain it. With barrister Kate Kelleher and Criminal Bar Association communications lead James Rossiter, we explore how lawyers hold the line between empathy and evidence while facing impossible timelines and rising complexity.

Across candid stories and sharp analysis, we examine why language matters—why “victim” becomes “complainant” until a verdict—and what that means for fairness. We look at fitness-to-plead, the spillover from a strained mental health system, and the human toll of trials drifting into 2027 and even 2029.
We also tackle prevention. School exclusions that push children to the streets, social media that rewards impulse, and the loss of everyday boundaries mean too many meet their first real limit in court. Amid that, barristers carry years of detail, reheated at each review, with little time to build trust with clients. Victim personal statements can validate pain but seldom change sentences, revealing the emotional and legal limits woven through modern justice. This conversation is clear-eyed, humane, and grounded in lived practice.

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Guest: Kate Kalleher & James Rossiter

Producer: Charlotte Janes & Nico Rivosecchi

Soundtrack: Particles (Revo Main Version) by [Coma-Media]

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Modern slavery isn’t far away or long ago. It’s here, woven into daily life, and too often dismissed as something else. We sit down with Lauren Saunders, Deputy Director of Frontline Services at Unseen, to uncover how exploitation hides in UK homes, care settings, nail bars, construction sites and supply chains—and what it takes to bring people to safety and hold perpetrators to account.

Lauren explains what modern slavery looks like today, from forced labour and domestic servitude to sexual and criminal exploitation, and clarifies the difference between trafficking and smuggling. We dig into red flags the public can spot, why victims may not recognise their exploitation, and how a culture of belief shapes better policing and prosecutions. We also connect the dots between consumer choices and forced labour, exploring how complex supply chains in agriculture, hospitality and construction can mask abuse. If you’ve ever wondered what to do when something feels wrong, this conversation gives you clear steps, useful resources and the conviction to act.

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Guest: Lauren Saunders

Producer: Charlotte Janes

Soundtrack: Particles (Revo Main Version) by [Coma-Media]

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We sit down with Dr Juliette Brown, an NHS consultant psychiatrist and climate activist facing a retrial after a hung jury, and Sir Jonathan Porritt, a leading environmental thinker who has returned to civil disobedience, to explore how conscience, health, and the law collide in today’s UK.

Together, we unpack Defend Our Juries, the grassroots campaign centred on a simple principle: jurors have the right to acquit according to conscience. We look at how tightened protest laws, expansive uses of counterterror powers, and stricter bail and remand conditions have chilled speech and civic action—while solidarity networks have flourished to support defendants, coordinate court solidarity, and keep the public informed. When juries hear the whole story, they often reflect community standards better than any statute book; when they are denied that context, justice risks becoming mechanical and brittle.

If you care about the right to protest, jury equity, climate justice, and the health of our democracy, this conversation offers clarity.

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Guests: Sir Jonathon Porritt & Dr Juliette Brown

Producer: Charlotte Janes

Soundtrack: Particles (Revo Main Version) by [Coma-Media]

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