On this episode of Christianity Without Compromise, originally recorded live, Dr. Jared Stacy (theologian and author), Joash Thomas (Anglican minister and justice advocate), Larry Lin (pastor and writer), and Caleb E. Campbell (pastor and author) join host Jake Doberenz to examine the rise of Christian nationalism five years after the January 6 U.S. Capitol attack.

Jared Stacy, scholar of conspiracy theories, traces how Christian nationalism thrives by blending whiteness, national identity, and Christian symbols. Caleb Campbell shares his own church’s disorientation as members turned on him over immigration and racial justice, seeing political dissent as spiritual betrayal. Larry Lin reflects on his transformation driven by a desire to root out anti-gospel messages from the church. And Joash Thomas, former GOP operative turned public theologian, draws on his Indian Christian heritage to contrast American self-preservation with the global Church’s sacrificial advocacy for the marginalized.

Together, they confront the spiritual rot beneath Christian nationalism—and what real Gospel allegiance demands in response.

Resources Mentioned:

• Jared Stacy’s upcoming book Reality in Ruins: How Conspiracy Theory Became an American Evangelical Crisis (Coming March 2026)
• Joash Thomas’s book The Justice of Jesus
• Caleb Campbell’s book Disarming Leviathan
• The Cross and the Olive Tree: Cultivating Palestinian Theology amid Gaza edited by John S. Munayer and Samuel S. Munayer
• Faith in the Face of Empire by Mitri Raheb

Guest Bios:

• Jared Stacy is a theologian and chaplain. His forthcoming book Reality in Ruins explores how conspiracy thinking became a crisis in American evangelicalism. Check out his previous episode, “Why Do Christians Fall for Conspiracy Theories?”
• Joash P. Thomas is an Anglican minister who works in international justice and public theology. His first book is The Justice of Jesus. Check out his previous episode “Justice and Jesus in a Colonized Church.”
• Larry Lin is a pastor at Grace Life Church in Baltimore. He previously worked for One America Movement, a nonprofit organization that equips clergy to counter political and cultural polarization. Check out his previous episode “The Dangers of Christian Nationalism & Tribalism.”
• Caleb Campbell is the lead pastor of Desert Springs Bible Church in Phoenix, Arizona. His book Disarming Leviathan and podcast of the same name equips readers to engage Christian nationalists with truth and love. “Why Hate Won’t Stop Christian Nationalism.”
• Jake Doberenz is the host of Christianity Without Compromise and founder of the podcast production company Theophany Media. He’s on, well, all the episodes!

Follow this show and Jake Doberenz’s writings at jakedoberenz.substack.com.