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This week, Haley and Gavyn sit down for their final episode before their “brief” medical leave post–kidney transplant hiatus. They talk about their ins and outs for 2026 — but, as usual, it turns into so much more.

The two reflect on the closing of a chaotic "nine year," the promise of new beginnings ahead, and how numerology, astrology, and Saturn returns somehow feel a little too accurate this time around.

Gavyn opens up about his health journey, kidney failure, and the surreal timing of his transplant, while Haley shares lessons learned from job loss, discomfort, and trusting that the universe really does clear what no longer fits.

It’s a send-off episode full of closure, hope, laughter, and honesty — a pause before the rebuild, and a reminder that even when you don’t know what’s next, you’re exactly where you’re supposed to be.

👩🏼👨🏻 The Hosts:

⁠@gavynbailey⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠

⁠@haleschaps⁠⁠⁠ ⁠ ⁠⁠⁠

Credits:

Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey

Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman

Music:

“Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom

“Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusic

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