In this episode, Mariano and Brent sit down with Josh Beckler of K9 Optima for a powerful and thoughtful conversation on the craft of dog training, the value of humility, and the systems that shape great trainers. Josh shares his unique journey—from developing an early bond with dogs, to a career in corporate investigations, and ultimately to becoming a respected voice in the dog training community. His background gives him a rare, investigative lens on behavior, communication, and assessment that few trainers possess.

Together, we explore the importance of slowing down, observing honestly, and building structured systems that allow both trainers and clients to succeed. Josh breaks down how skills from interviewing, public speaking, and corporate work naturally transfer to dog training—and why many trainers underestimate the power of these cross-disciplinary tools. He also speaks candidly about the Dunning-Kruger effect, the role of humility in growth, and how criticism—when taken correctly—can become a catalyst for better work.

The conversation moves beyond technique into the deeper layers of what it means to teach, parent, lead, and communicate effectively. Josh offers insight into navigating social media with authenticity, creating transparency in your training process, and finding your “true north” when the noise of the industry gets loud. We also dive into his upcoming book, The Infinite Approach, where he aims to give trainers and dog owners a more complete, adaptable way to understand behavior and problem-solve without rigid ideology.

Whether you're a new trainer, a seasoned professional, or someone seeking a more thoughtful approach to behavior, this episode is full of perspective, honesty, and the reminder that great training starts with great self-awareness.

Topics include:

• Josh’s journey from early dog connections to corporate investigations
• How investigative interviewing skills translate to dog training
• The rise of social media and its impact on trainers
• Building systems, structure, and clarity into your training business
• Humility, the Dunning-Kruger effect, and embracing criticism
• Transparency and authenticity in your training process
• Parenting lessons that crossover into dog behavior work
• The philosophy behind The Infinite Approach and redefining dog training
• Creating community, case studies, and forward-thinking resources

Mariano Alvarez
IG @UNTAMEDDOGCO
www.untameddogco.com

Phoenix, AZ

Brent LaBrada
IG @CANISBEHAVIOR
www.canisdogtraining.com

Los Angeles, CA

Josh Beckler
IG @K9OPTIMA
www.k9optima.com

Bay Area, CA