This week's summit: the immortal author, publicist, musician, music expert, activist, DJ, badass: Nathan Carson of Nanotear.

Topics and quotes:

• Any art that I appreciate, I like knowing where it comes from and what those people's influences are, and so I think it's just a natural curiosity for me to trace all those roots
• Hole in the Sky, to me, is very much a better Black Sabbath song.
• You've got people saying, “Well, concerts should be free, or $5. I grew up going to $5 shows, why isn't it $5?”
• You can see I've got a pretty good, scar across my neck. It looks like I came out of a Highlander movie, successfully.
• I didn't want to have to wrap up my affairs and sell my records and finish my novel in 6 months.
• Making a list, or making a call, or making a plan.

Lyrics reference: Korn

Topics and Quotes:

• You have to speak a very, very great language, very intellectual, to sing in French.
• I needed to tell many things that I kept very… for a long, very long time, inside my body, inside myself, my brain.
• Try to understand that no one will come to knock to your door to save you.
• Because many people can't understand that, and they don't want to understand, because maybe they're afraid, we don't know.

All-Star panel: Kevin J. Anderson (Bestselling novelist behind the Terra Incognita trilogy, plus the Clockwork Angels series with Neil Peart of RUSH, and numerous other titles in major franchises, including Dune and Star Wars). Michael Sadler - Founding member of iconic prog band: Saga. Bob Madsen - of The Highlander Company Records, also known for “flippity-flappity bass”

• Lyrics reference: Rush
• Quotes:
• -The record business is broken. We don't know what we're doing.
• -I really know how to write books, but I don't play any instruments.

-I'm quite willing to sing outside of my comfort zone, as it were, with Saga. In fact, I invite it, because I really enjoy doing that and expanding my range.

https://wordfirepress.com/collections/terra-incognita

https://sagagen.com/

https://thehighlanderco.com/

Chris Caffery of @transsiberianorchestra Trans-Siberian Orchestra, @thisissavatage Savatage, Doro, his solo band, and others. This features two excerpts from his MetalAslyum interview with Jack Mangan and Rich Catino. Watch the full interview here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DetM4JJ3IsU&t=3s

Quotes from this episode:

• There's not a lot of money coming from the sales. So you're going to have to get on the road.
• It's really important for people to get an identity.

Savatage is like a little little anchor in the middle right now that I've been missing.

No lyric reference this episode. (What?!)

https://www.chriscaffery.com/

The amazing Doro Pesch joins Jack Mangan for SLAM Summit: Music Survival Guide 32!

• Lyrics reference: Warlock
• An amazing story involving lightning.
• Doro’s Metal Queen Metal Music cruise The “Warriors of the Sea” album.
• I think our live versions, they are always 10,000 times better than the studio versions because of the fans.
• It's very hard for musicians to survive only on streaming.

Lemmy and Dio, they were my best friends, actually.

https://www.doropesch.com/

David “Rock” Feinstein of The Rods, and formerly of Elf.

Lyrics reference: The Rods

Topics and quotes:

• I had to call Ronnie back and say, “Ronnie, as much as it breaks my heart. . .”
• Lots of amazing stories about his cousin Ronnie James Dio, their time together in Elf, the tragic 1968 car accident, Ronnie’s departure to join Rainbow, Ronnie’s talent. . .
• The Rods legendary career, plus the new album: “Wild Dogs Unchained”
• How he got the “Rock” nickname
• In the 80s, you wrote songs about partying, and girls, and, you know, the whole sex, drugs, and rock and roll type of thing.
• The actual 40 minutes, 45 minutes, hour, however long you're on stage playing is the actual drug that we are hooked on.
• 99.9% of all the shows that we've done in the last 15 years have been break-even shows.
• All it takes is one song.

https://therods.com/

Mike Bollenbach of Full Well Studios

Lyrics reference: Alice Cooper

Quotes:

Being in the studio with Alice Cooper and Bob Ezrin

The music industry is in a sort of depressing state when it comes to compensation for your recorded material

As an engineer in the year 2025, you need to be adaptable. You need to be able to embrace the new technology that's coming out. You need to be able to work in all those mediums.

The world is so inundated with the amount of people putting out music, that it's really hard to have a charting record in 2025.

The days of bands, you know, like, like supergroups. . . There's not gonna be another Led Zeppelin or Black Sabbath. . . The closest thing we have to that in 2025 would be the Foo Fighters.

http://www.fullwellrecording.com/

https://www.supportlifeandmusic.org/

Gabriel Bey - a Phoenix-based musician, entrepreneur, and a major idea slinger for the improvement of culture and community, especially in the arts.

• It takes you a lifetime to learn all of these things, so much better when you have someone to show you the way.
• Hopefully you can find your niche and live a healthy life playing music.
• If you're a local artist, you're playing in nightclubs. . . the money that you make just barely pays your daily living expenses.
• For you musicians, all you gotta do is continue to write, continue to create, and we'll put your music in a database and allow those, film companies that hear, listen to it
• if you're into music, you have to do it for the love, because if you're trying to do it for the money, you'll go down the wrong path every time.

https://phxmf.com/

https://www.supportlifeandmusic.org/