Join Pastor David Lien, Pastor Bob Wilk, and special guest Jerusha Waelty as they discuss the tension between the seen and unseen realms. This episode breaks down how the world constantly competes for our attention, why spiritual sight matters, and how believers learn to live from the greater reality of Christ’s kingdom while walking through real-life challenges.

Join Pastor Bob Wilk and Pastor David Lien with special guest Julie Healy as they discuss the power of praise and worship in the life of a believer. They talk about why praise can feel counterintuitive in seasons of heaviness, yet how it becomes a powerful tool God uses to break chains and bring freedom. Drawing from Scripture, including Paul and Silas in prison, they break down how praise shifts our focus from self-effort to God’s presence and faithfulness. This episode encourages believers to put on the garment of praise, defy despair, and trust God even when circumstances don’t make sense.

Join Pastor David Lien, Pastor Bob Wilk, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss the topic of Self-Righteousness vs. God’s Righteousness. In this episode, they unpack how self-righteousness often grows out of good intentions and religious striving, while God’s righteousness is received through faith in Christ. The conversation explores right standing with God, the danger of performance-based faith, and how true righteousness produces freedom, humility, and love for others. They break down how living from God’s righteousness transforms our relationships, our rest, and the way we walk with Him daily.

Join Pastor Bob Wilk, Pastor David Lien, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss the topic of Family. They explore why God established family as the foundation for human flourishing and how family reveals God’s nature as Father. This episode breaks down the importance of belonging, trust, boundaries, and maturity, as well as how the church is called to function as a true spiritual family. The conversation highlights God’s heart for every person— married, single, parent, or child—and how family is meant to carry the Kingdom forward.

Join Athena Low, Pastor Bob Wilk, and Jeribai Tascoe as they discuss the transformative power of connection, love, and covenant in the body of Christ. They explore how God’s grace enables us to overcome rejection and fear, helping us to pour life into others while remaining rooted in Him. Through the analogy of the heart and practical insights on communion and relationships, this episode emphasizes the importance of agape love in building unity, sustaining spiritual life, and walking in purpose as part of the body of Christ.

Join Jeribai Tascoe, Athena Low and Pastor Bob Wilk as they discuss the powerful story of Esther and what it reveals about identity, calling, and navigating the messy realities of life with God. In this candid and insightful episode of the Spirit School of Ministry Podcast, the team unpacks Esther’s journey from orphaned exile to a woman positioned by God to save an entire nation.

Together they explore themes of identity being stripped and restored, the role of spiritual covering, the contrast between self-preserving and selfless courage, and how God moves even in the most imperfect and uncomfortable circumstances. This conversation is raw, real, and deeply encouraging—reminding listeners that God still places His people strategically “for such a time as this,” even when the process doesn’t look clean or easy.

Whether you’re navigating your own season of uncertainty or rediscovering who you are in Christ, this episode offers wisdom, challenge, and hope for your journey.

Join Pastors David Lien, Jeribai Tascoe, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss one of the most talked-about and often misunderstood topics in the church today: women in ministry. With honesty, scholarship, and a deep reverence for Scripture, the conversation explores how faithful Christians can arrive at different interpretations—while still honoring Jesus and remaining united in the essentials of the faith. Pastor David shares his own journey of re-examining long-held beliefs, Jeribai brings clarity from the biblical narrative and the work of the Holy Spirit, and Pastor Liz offers powerful insight from both Old and New Testament examples of women God called, empowered, and positioned for leadership.

Together, they walk through the passages most commonly debated, address misconceptions, and highlight the sweeping gospel story that affirms God’s heart for His daughters. This thoughtful, grounded, and deeply edifying episode invites listeners to look beyond proof-texts and into the full revelation of Scripture—where the Holy Spirit gives gifts, callings, and assignments to both men and women for the building of Christ’s church.

Join Pastor David Lien, Jeribai Tascoe, and Pastor Liz Jones as they discuss what it truly means to return to the simplicity found in Christ. In this heartfelt conversation, they reflect on how easy it is to complicate our faith through knowledge, performance, and religious routine—when all along, the heart of Christianity is a relationship with Jesus Himself. Together, they explore what it looks like to walk in childlike faith, free from striving, and to rediscover the wonder of knowing Him personally. Their discussion reminds listeners that maturity in faith isn’t about mastering information, but about deepening intimacy with the One who made us. Tune in for a refreshing and grounding reminder to keep the main thing—the presence and love of Christ—the main thing.