What if your church disappeared tomorrow—would your city notice? In this episode of Salty Talk, we’re joined by Chris Winn from Community Life Church in Shawnee, Kansas. With over 40 years of ministry experience and a heart for his city, Chris shares how asking one tough question changed the direction of his church forever.

He walks us through the practical (and sometimes messy) journey of partnering with local government, serving alongside non-believers, and creating a community-wide volunteer system that has gained attention across the region.

Whether you're leading a large congregation or a church of 100, this episode will challenge your definition of "impact" and remind you that obedience often starts small—and always multiplies.

How do you measure success when you’re serving people instead of selling a product? In this follow-up to the previous conversation on ministry metrics, the Salty Talk crew digs into the heart (and grit) of setting and measuring goals in community ministry.

From tracking meals served to navigating the tension between big numbers and real impact, this episode is packed with honest, practical insight. Hosts Jerome, Erica, and Becky get real about balancing leadership expectations with the messy, grassroots nature of local outreach—and how humility, collaboration, and clarity can guide ministry goals that actually reflect God’s heart.

Bonus: The team also shares stories, wins, flops, and the occasional mic-drop one-liner you won’t want to miss.

In this episode of Salty Talk, hosts Becky, Jerome, and Erica dive into a tricky element of community ministry: how to measure success. From failed events and unexpected wins to long-term transformation and small but powerful stories, this honest conversation explores what it really looks like to lead local outreach with both strategy and soul.

Whether you're a seasoned community minister or just starting out, you'll find encouragement in the real talk about expectations, metrics, leadership alignment, and why the most meaningful moments often can’t be measured at all.

Erica also shares a personal update on her cancer journey and how God’s faithfulness continues to lead the way.