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Science of Reading: The Podcast

Science of Reading: The Podcast

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Science of Reading: The Podcast will deliver the latest insights from researchers and practitioners in early reading. Via a conversational approach, each episode explores a timely topic related to the science of reading.

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  • S10 E3: Finding fluency at the heart of comprehension, with Doug Lemov
    Oct 22 2025

    In this episode of Science of Reading: The Podcast, Susan Lambert is joined by Doug Lemov, former teacher and school principal, to discuss how teachers can identify when disfluency is actually the root cause for students’ struggles with comprehension—and what they can do about it. Using his new book, The Teach Like a Champion Guide to the Science of Reading, to guide the discussion, Susan and Doug address building attention stamina, the argument for reading whole books, and the value of expressive read-alouds. Finally, Doug ends the episode asserting that humans are meant to live in community, and that a deeper level of comprehension is unlocked through deep empathic connection to text and the experience of reading with others.

    Show notes:

    • Listen to Season 2 of the Beyond My Years podcast for solutions to common teaching challenges directly from seasoned educators.
    • Connect with Doug Lemov:
      • X: @Doug_Lemov
    • Resources:
      • Read: The Teach Like a Champion Guide to the Science of Reading
      • Watch: Gabby Woolf’s Dr. Jekyll Lesson and the Power of Reading Fluency
      • Listen: ”Phonology as a settled science”
      • Listen: ”The plea to preserve deep reading, with Maryanne Wolf, Ed.D.”
      • Listen: ”Writing the way to better reading, with Judith Hochman, Ed.D.”
      • Listen: ”The joy of reading aloud, with Molly Ness”
      • Download: cComprehension 101 Bundle
    • Submit your questions on comprehension!
    • Join our community Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/scienceofreading
    • Connect with Susan Lambert: www.linkedin.com/in/susan-lambert-b1512761/

    Quotes:

    “If you're not a fluent reader, you can't be a deep reader.”—Doug Lemov

    “The research is clear that when you start to read expressively externally, then your internal reading voice while reading silently is much more expressive and therefore infused with more meaning.”—Doug Lemov

    Episode Timestamps
    03:00 Introduction: Doug Lemov
    05:00 The importance of the middle grades
    07:00 Book: The Teach like a Champion Guide to the Science of Reading
    13:00 How to build attention stamina
    16:00 Background knowledge and vocabulary
    19:00 Writing’s impact on memory and reading
    22:00 The value in reading whole books
    25:00 Embracing smaller writing assignments
    27:00 Fluency deep dive
    30:00 Working memory
    35:00 Troubleshooting fluency
    39:00 Expressive reading
    41:00 Read-alouds
    44:00 Reading as a social act
    52:00 The argument for books
    *Timestamps are approximate, rounded to nearest minute


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    59 min
  • Science of Reading Essentials: Dyslexia
    Oct 8 2025

    In this special dyslexia-focused Essentials episode of Science of Reading: The Podcast, Susan Lambert pulls from past episodes to summarize everything you need to know about dyslexia, from experts Emily Lutrick, Ed.D.; Nadine Gaab, Ph.D.; Tim Odegard, Ph.D.; Sally Shaywitz, M.D.; and Francisco Usero-González, Ph.D. You'll also hear first-hand accounts from young people about their personal experiences with dyslexia, reading, and the education system. Even if you have little prior knowledge of dyslexia, you’ll walk away from this episode with a foundational understanding of the condition, including what it is, what causes it, how to identify it, the importance of early screening, how it is a continuum, methods for intervention, and more.

    Show notes:

    • Resources
      • Access free high-quality resources at our brand new professional learning page: http://amplify.com/science-of-reading/professional-learning
      • Download your Dyslexia Support Power Pack
    • Join our community Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/scienceofreading

    Episode Timestamps
    00:27 Introduction to SoR: Essentials
    01:02 Susan’s personal connection with dyslexia
    02:53 Accounts from young people on their experience of dyslexia
    05:09 Defining dyslexia with Dr. Emily Lutrick
    06:53 Dyslexia as a reading disability with Dr. Nadine Gaab
    07:39 Three key characteristics of people with dyslexia with Dr. Tim Odegard
    09:42 Longitudinal study with Dr. Sally Shaywitz
    11:54 The causes of dyslexia
    13:09 Early identification and effective intervention
    15:22 Discrepancy model/Waiting to fail model
    16:35 How early is too early to screen for dyslexia
    18:37 How to know when a student is at risk for dyslexia
    21:54 Identifying risk factors in older students
    22:54 Decoding nonsense words
    24:27 The power of naming a struggle
    25:28 The importance of having a cohesive system in place
    26:43 Screening students in their home language with Dr. Francisco Paco Usero Gonzalez
    29:45 Dyslexia as a continuum
    33:41 Final thoughts from young people on dyslexia
    36:12 Preview of upcoming episode
    *Timestamps are approximate, rounded to nearest minute

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    37 min
  • S10 E2: Orthographic mapping is a cognitive process, with Katie Pace Miles, Ph.D.
    Sep 24 2025

    In this episode of Science of Reading: The Podcast, Susan Lambert is joined by Katie Pace Miles, Ph.D., founder of The Reading Institute and director of the Advanced Certificates in Reading Science, Brooklyn College. An expert in orthographic mapping, Pace Miles explains why it’s a cognitive process, why that means it can’t be “taught,” and how we can instead leverage an understanding of it to inform instructional practices across reading, writing, and spelling to improve comprehension. Pace Miles outlines what it takes to develop good word-reading habits in emergent readers, and offers step-by-step advice on how to implement quick intervention when needed.

    Show notes:

    • Submit your questions on comprehension!
    • Access free, high-quality resources at our brand-new companion professional learning page.
    • Connect with Katie Pace Miles:
      • Website: https://www.katiepacemilesphd.com/
      • Instagram: @thereadinginstitutenyc
    • Resources:
      • Book: Making Words Stick: A Four-Step Instructional Routine to Power Up Orthographic Mapping
      • Article: ”Phases of Development in Learning to Read and Spell Words” by Linnea C. Ehri
      • Podcast episode: The joy of reading aloud, with Molly Ness
    • Join our community Facebook group: www.facebook.com/groups/scienceofreading
    • Connect with Susan Lambert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susan-lambert-edd-b1512761/

    Quotes:

     "You don't teach orthographic mapping, 'cause, again, that's a cognitive process, but you can facilitate support for long-term storage of words." —Katie Pace Miles, Ph.D.

    "Never acquiesce to illiteracy. We all, as a community that supports all readers, have to figure out what instruction needs to be provided and what dosage over what duration of time … and it will happen." —Katie Pace Miles, Ph.D.

    "If you're focused only on phonics and not on spelling, you are going to miss a whole bunch of decoding instruction, word analysis work." —Katie Pace Miles, Ph.D.

    "You don't need a Ph.D. to have that knowledge. That should come in all teacher training. The complexity of the English language—every teacher I've ever met can handle it once we teach it."—Katie Pace Miles, Ph.D.

    Episode timestamps*
    03:00 Introduction: Who is Katie Pace Miles?
    04:00 Beginnings as a teacher
    07:00 Book: Making Words Stick: A four step instructional routine to power up orthographic mapping
    10:00 The motivation behind the book
    13:00 Orthographic mapping as a cognitive process
    17:00 Can you teach orthographic mapping?
    19:00 Research behind the theory of orthographic mapping
    24:00 Developing good word reading habits with emergent readers
    28:00 Reading-spelling connection
    32:00 Rubberband analogy: Developing speaking and reading skills in tandem
    34:00 Orthographic mapping can support or impede comprehension
    39:00 Intervention
    43:00 Activities and strategies from the book
    44:00 Final thoughts
    *Timestamps are approximate, rounded to nearest minute

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    49 min
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