André Arko, CEO of Spinel Cooperative and longtime Bundler maintainer, joins Corey Quinn to introduce RV, a new Ruby tool that installs Ruby in one second instead of 10-40 minutes by using precompiled binaries. Inspired by Python's UV, RV aims to simplify Ruby dependency management without the complexity of older tools like RVM and rbenv. They talk about why Ruby isn't actually dead, Apple's problem with shipping a five-year-old end-of-life Ruby in macOS, and the challenges of writing dependency managers in the language they manage. André also shares how he transitioned from a struggling nonprofit model to a cooperative that charges companies for expertise, proving that open source maintainers can build sustainable businesses without relying on donations.

Show Highlights:

(03:50) Introducing RV

(05:12) The RVM vs rbenv Wars and Why They All Break Bundler

(09:00) Why Your Mac Still Shows Ruby 3.0.0 in Your Prompt

(11:00) The Chef vs Puppet Philosophy Divide

(16:30) Installing Ruby in One Second vs 40 Minutes

(18:13) Apple’s Ancient System Ruby Problem

(22:20) RV’s Incremental Approach

(24:23) Is Ruby Dead?

(28:44) Why RV Is Written in Rust, Not Ruby

(31:10) The Bundler Problem

(32:15) The Financial Reality

(38:00) Spinel’s Plans to Make Money

(39:23) How to Stay In Contact with André

Links:

André Arko: https://arko.net
Blue Sky: https://bsky.app/profile/indirect.io
Spinel Cooperative: https://spinel.coop

Sponsor:
Duckbill: https://www.duckbillhq.com/

When attackers are smart enough to hit your backups, recovery becomes your best defense. Rubrik’s Chief Product Officer, Anneka Gupta, joins host Corey Quinn to break down what true cyber resilience looks like in today’s multi-cloud world. From AI-driven recovery to surviving ransomware with your data (and reputation) intact, this episode covers what it really takes to bounce back when everything goes sideways.

Show Highlights

(00:00) Introduction to Ransomware and Backups

(00:25) Welcome to Screaming in the Cloud

(00:32) Introducing Rubrik and Annika Gupta

(01:26) What Does Rubrik Do?

(02:18) Evolution of Backup and Recovery

(03:37) Challenges in Cyber Recovery

(05:33) Rubrik's Approach to Cyber Resilience

(08:44) Importance of Cyber Recovery Simulations

(09:40) Security vs. Operational Recovery

(11:28) Assume Breach: A New Security Paradigm

(14:29) Multi-Cloud Complexities and Security

(27:45) Hybrid Cloud and Cyber Resilience

(29:25) AI in Cyber Resilience

(33:09) Conclusion and Contact Information

About Anneka Gupta
Anneka Gupta is a senior executive leader with a proven track record of scaling successful B2B SaaS businesses from the ground up. She’s led across product, tech, go-to-market, and operations, always with a customer-first mindset. Known for turning complex challenges into big wins, Anneka brings energy, innovation, and real-world results to every team she leads.

She’s been recognized as one of San Francisco Business Times’ Most Influential Women in Business and 40 Under 40, as well as a Rising Star by AdExchanger and Marketing EDGE. Oh, and AdAge once named her one of the Top 10 Digital Marketing Innovators.

Links
rubrik.com/sitc
https://www.linkedin.com/in/annekagupta/

Sponsor:
Rubrik

Deana Solis, 2022 FinOps Foundation Evangelist of the Year, joins Corey Quinn to discuss her winding career path from electrical engineering to healthcare IT to FinOps. She shares why certifications are "largely performative," warns that AI can turn your AWS bill into "a telephone number," and explains why NAT Gateway costs hit everyone from hobbyists to enterprises. The episode covers cloud repatriation conspiracy theories, translating between engineering and finance teams, and why good FinOps work is really just getting humans in a room to talk.

Show Highlights:

(02:36) FinOps Foundation

(03:15) FinOps as Marriage Counseling Between Engineering and Finance

(06:00) Deana’s Journey From Electrical Engineering to FinOps

(12:41) The Performative Nature of Certifications

(16:22) AI as Both a Threat and Tool in FinOps

(20:41) Why AI Is Flooding the Job Market with Noise

(25:09) Why FinOps Is Never Boring Despite Sounding Like It

(29:10) The NAT Gateway Problem

(33:09) The Generational Divide in Cloud Platform Preferences

(37:23) Stay In Contact With Deana Solis

About Deana Solis:

Deana Solis is a senior FinOps engineer with more than 20 years of infrastructure management experience. Recognized as the FinOps Evangelist of the Year by the FinOps Foundation in 2022, she has become a leading voice in driving cloud financial accountability and culture.

Beyond her technical expertise, Deana is passionate about humanizing technology. She serves as a FinOps Foundation ambassador and mentor, using her voice to elevate Women in FinOps and underrepresented folks in technology.

Her unique journey, from electrical engineering to liberal studies to FinOps, embodies both analytical rigor and emotional intelligence. Deana isn’t just shaping the way organizations think about cloud costs; she’s helping reshape the culture of technology itself.

Sponsor: https://www.wiz.io/