Richmond second row Sian Hobday joins She's the Champ to mark her retirement after reaching 100 caps. She looks back at playing with internationals in Richmond's Prem days and dealing with the club's exclusion from the top tier, and how the women's game has changed since she started playing as a girl more than 20 years ago. She also talks about what American Football has taught rugby, and why a warm shower made her realise it was time to call it a day.

Plus the results and tables after Round 9.

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Host: Bluebell Nicholls

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Old Albanians winger Shaniah Herelle joins She's the Champ ahead of Champ South's top-two match between OAs and Richmond. She talks about choosing rugby over MMA, what it feels like to win at Twickenham, feeling homesick on the England development camps and why parents' help is so important to girls playing rugby.

Plus the Round 8 results, the tables and why the weekend means there's a change at the top of Champ North, and a look ahead to the fixtures in Round 9.

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Bath scrum half Abbie Watkin joins She's the Champ ahead of Bath hosting Exeter University at the Rec in the double-header on Saturday (22/11). Abbie is on the comeback path from injuries, and reflects on how she comes to terms with having four surgeries, including for ACL injuries. She also talks about the difference the World Cup has made in her job promoting rugby to young girls for the RFU, and she reveals which Hamilton song goes on her pre-match playlist.

Plus the latest tables after the week off, as most teams head into Round 8.

Warning: This episode contains strong language.

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Host: Bluebell Nicholls

Producer: Tom Nunan