In Show Biz Part 2, Greg Mathis Jr. and Elliott Cooper continue their hilarious, honest, and heartfelt conversation with producer Vanda Lee and director/writer/actor Joe Carroll. Picking up where Part 1 left off, the episode dives deeper into their journeys through Hollywood, the psychology behind navigating the industry, and the resilience required to keep creating when rejection is part of the job. Joe opens up about the decade-long success of his novel series Sinful Confessions and teases Book 3, while Vanda shares how his psychology background became one of his greatest tools for surviving and thriving in the entertainment world. From childhood memories, HBCU theater roots, and early creativity to the reality of on-set chaos, artist tantrums, and unbelievable production curveballs—including motorhomes with roaches, Malibu stand-offs, and crew HR nightmares—this episode gives an unfiltered look behind the camera. Greg, Elliott, Vanda, and Joe also talk about mental health, community, authenticity, and the importance of opening doors for the next generation. They close with “Chef Kiss or Miss,” reviewing New York Chopped Cheese in LA, and give updates on where to watch and support their latest work—including Fighting To Be Me: The Dwen Curry Story on BET+.

Featuring:

Fighting To Be Me: The Dwen Curry Story (BET+), Sinful Confessions (Book Series), Better Brothers LA, HBCUs, Alabama State University, Clemson University, Lifetime, Malibu productions, Jess Kiki (Keke Palmer), Megan Thee Stallion.