Colin Reef lost his daughter, Kyla, in 2019. When Karen and I met him at Compassionate Friends, we took note of his contribution to the group discussion which always brings a well received wave of spiritual intuition and comfort to the room. His faith and enthusiasm is contagious as are the outstanding books he selflessly gifts to the group. We are so grateful for Colin's insight into the spiritual realm and his metaphysical curiosity about the other side.

John Denton retired from the La County fire department in 2023 after 27 years of service. He started his career as a fire figher and then continued his service for 23 years as a paramedic working in many busy areas across Los Angeles County.

John was the first responder to Conner Budge's accident on September 24th 2022. Soon he discovered after reading the car registration that the name Conner Michael Budge sounded very familiar. He hoped that it wasn't the son of Michael Budge that he went to school with over 30 years ago, but sadly enough the connection was true and soon reached out to Michael, Karen and Conner's brother Ian. The family was so grateful for his love and support as there was comfort in understanding the details of their loved one's accident.

After interveiwing so many people who have lost a loved one, especially in a tragic way, Lori and Karen realized that it is important to understand the First Responders life. This podcast gives an insight to their sometimes very harsh lifestyle as they continue to serve the community.