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Strategy at Scale

Strategy at Scale

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Brought to you by Outthinker, Scaling Up, and Growth Institute

In a sea of contradictory business advice, Strategy at Scale breaks through the noise to deliver practical, proven strategies to predictably scale the value of your business. Each week, we interview successful entrepreneurs and business builders across industries to extract simple, high-impact strategic concepts that work. From avoiding costly missteps to executing systematic processes that fuel growth, you’ll gain lessons from the masters to scale your enterprise more effectively.

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  • From $5M To $50M EBITDA: Brett Hickey’s Scale Checklist For Operators
    Jan 27 2026

    Brett Hickey is the Founder and CEO of Star Mountain Capital, a multi-billion-dollar private investment firm focused on the U.S. lower middle market. Over more than two decades, Brett has built a specialized platform spanning private equity, private credit, and secondaries—backed by a clear philosophy: align incentives like owners, run strategy through probabilities, and build value where markets are fragmented and overlooked. He’s also made 500+ placements into private companies, giving him rare pattern recognition on what actually helps businesses scale.

    In this conversation, Brett breaks down how to spot opportunity in big, fragmented markets, why a probability-driven approach beats certainty-driven planning, and what has to change when strategy can no longer live inside one leader’s head. If you’re a founder or operator trying to grow from “founder-led intuition” to durable scale—through structure, talent, incentives, and clear execution—this episode is a practical playbook.

    Brett on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhickey/
    Star Mountain Capital: https://starmountaincapital.com/

    In this episode, you’ll learn:
    •A checklist for identifying opportunity in fragmented markets before they’re obvious.
    •What probability-driven strategy looks like in practice—and how it reshapes risk decisions.
    •Why “your customer’s customer” matters for long-term durability and downside protection.
    •The strategic foundations to move from $5M to $50M EBITDA: plan clarity, metrics, leadership, board, talent.
    •How to design incentives and ownership so employees think like owners—at every level.

    00:00 Introduction and Personal Investment Philosophy

    00:36 Welcome to the Strategy at Scale Podcast

    00:55 Introducing Brett Hickey and Star Mountain Capital

    01:45 Brett Hickey's Career and Investment Insights

    03:58 Understanding Market Opportunities and Risks

    06:47 Investment Strategies and Market Analysis

    10:13 The Importance of Differentiation and Competitive Advantage

    19:56 Star Mountain's Unique Approach and Employee Ownership

    25:36 Overcoming Challenges on Wall Street

    26:44 Aligning Interests for Success

    27:19 Navigating COVID-19 as a Team

    28:11 Structuring Equity and Performance Metrics

    30:49 Comprehensive Business Solutions

    37:50 Strategic Agility and Talent Development

    43:31 Resources for Entrepreneurs

    46:20 Conclusion and Contact Information

    Thanks for listening! This episode is brought to you by Kaihan Krippendorff of Outthinker Networks.


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    48 min
  • Unconditional Power: Steven Gaffney’s 3-State Framework For High-Performing Teams
    Jan 13 2026

    Steven Gaffney is a leadership advisor and author who helps teams perform under pressure through honest communication, change management, and practical leadership tools. Having advised leaders across Fortune 500 companies as well as government and military teams, Steven has seen firsthand that strategy doesn’t fail because teams lack intelligence—it fails because they operate in the wrong “mood,” leave critical things unsaid, and confuse facts with the stories they tell themselves about those facts. His latest book, Unconditional Power, lays out a practical framework for moving teams from reaction mode to execution mode—especially when information is incomplete and the pressure to move fast is real.


    In this conversation, Steven breaks down the three morale states that determine whether teams take action or stall, why hidden disagreement is more dangerous than open conflict, and how leaders can create real alignment after debate (without requiring artificial consensus). If you’re a founder, executive, or operator responsible for guiding strategy through uncertainty and human dynamics, this episode gives you a repeatable playbook for making better decisions, faster—with your team fully committed.


    👉 Learn more about Steven and connect: https://stevengaffney.com/

    👉 Connect with Steven on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevengaffney/

    👉 Contact for a free chapter of Unconditional Power: https://justbehonest.com


    In this episode, you’ll learn:

    •The three morale states—powerless, conditionally powerful, and unconditionally powerful—and how each one shapes execution.

    •How to separate what you notice (facts) from what you imagine (assumptions) to prevent meetings from running on stories.

    •A simple “T-chart” method to resolve disagreements quickly and move forward with clarity.

    •Why “getting the unsaid said” is the fastest way to fix trust, alignment, and performance breakdowns.

    •How great leaders build accountability through commitment—so teams stop complying and start owning the mission.


    00:00 Introduction to Leadership and Learning

    00:59 Introducing Steven Gaffney

    01:19 Fundamentals of High Performing Teams

    03:01 Diving into Unconditional Power

    03:52 The Importance of Mood and Morale

    04:25 Three Moods of Morale

    07:01 Taking Action in Uncertainty

    13:10 Distinguishing Facts from Stories

    18:09 Leadership Gravitational Pull

    21:00 Leadership Team Dynamics

    22:11 The Importance of Honest Communication

    23:23 Getting the Unsaid Said

    25:29 Balancing Authenticity and Mission

    30:54 Creating Accountability and Commitment

    34:24 Scaling Leadership Principles

    37:04 Connecting and Learning More

    Thanks for listening! This episode is brought to you by Kaihan Krippendorff of Outthinker Networks and Verne Harnish of Scaling Up.

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    39 min
  • How Bill George Uses Authentic Leadership: Building Companies That Outlast Markets
    Dec 9 2025

    Bill George is the former CEO and Chairman of Medtronic and a longtime professor at Harvard Business School. Starting from an early conviction that leadership had to mean more than chasing titles, he helped transform Medtronic from a 4,000-person medical device maker into a 30,000-person, purpose-driven global leader. Along the way he codified a playbook for “True North” leadership that combines clear purpose, distinctive strategy, and uncompromising values.

    In this conversation, Bill unpacks what authentic leadership really is (and isn’t), why purpose has to precede strategy, and how leaders actually grow as their organizations scale. If you’re a founder, executive, or intrapreneur trying to build something durable—not just profitable—this is a masterclass in aligning who you are with how you lead.

    👉 Bill’s latest book, True North: Emerging Leader Edition: https://billgeorge.org/book/true-north-emerging-leader-edition
    👉 Connect with Bill on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/williamwgeorge

    In this episode, you’ll learn:
    •How to use crucible moments to find your True North, deepen self-awareness, and stop “faking it to make it.”
    •Why purpose and uniqueness—not “being the best”—should anchor your strategy and define how you win in the market.
    •What it really takes to scale from thousands to tens of thousands of people, including upgrading your leadership bench and shifting from managing to coaching.
    •How to build leadership circles and feedback systems that create psychologically safe spaces, grow authentic leaders, and keep values alive at scale.
    •How to design metrics that actually matter, resist short-term gaming of the numbers, and hold your values under pressure from boards, investors, and the market.

    Timestamps

    00:00 Introduction to Self-Leadership
    01:16 Welcome to the Strategy at Scale Podcast
    01:39 Meet Bill George: Leadership Luminary
    04:05 Bill George’s Leadership Journey
    06:04 Defining Strategy and Purpose
    11:38 Authentic Leadership Explained
    23:01 The Importance of Crucibles in Leadership
    29:23 Introduction to the Men’s Group
    29:45 Weekly Meetings and Topics
    30:11 Dealing with Illness in the Group
    31:14 Personal Reflections and Values
    34:56 The Importance of Metrics
    42:16 Leadership and Growth
    44:42 Challenges and Solutions in Leadership
    49:12 The Role of Values in Leadership
    53:07 Final Thoughts and Reflections

    Thanks for listening! This episode is brought to you by Kaihan Krippendorff of Outthinker Networks and Verne Harnish of Scaling Up.

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    55 min
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