In this episode of Success is Subjective, Joanna Lilly sits down with Kade Matthews—a devoted father, psychotherapist, and lifelong advocate for creating healing spaces. Kade opens up about his own non-linear path, weaving together stories of parenthood, professional growth, and the ways music, poetry, and time in nature have been therapeutic anchors in his life. As both a clinician and a parent of young adults, Kade offers a rare dual perspective: candidly acknowledging his own stumbles while emphasizing the importance of compassion, connection, and finding joy in the journey. From mountain biking and canyoneering to supporting families through transition programs, Kade’s story is one of resilience, authenticity, and living in alignment with values. Listeners will walk away inspired by Kade’s reminder that success isn’t about perfection—it’s about presence, vulnerability, and the courage to keep showing up for yourself and those you love.

Kade’s Resources:
At The Crossroads

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What happens when you follow the “right” path… and it still doesn’t feel right? On this episode of Success is Subjective, Joanna sits down with Mark White, Clinical Director at Red Mountain Sedona, to trace his decades-long journey from small-town Michigan to the red rocks of Arizona. Mark shares candid reflections on the many detours, career pivots, and soul-searching moments that ultimately led him to discover his calling in therapeutic work with young adults. From parking cars and considering nursing to kayaking wild rivers and nearly joining the Air Force, Mark’s story is a powerful reminder that discovering what isn’t your path can be just as valuable as finding what is. Now thriving in his role at Red Mountain Sedona and biking the same desert trails that inspired him decades ago, Mark’s story comes full circle—with wisdom, heart, and a reminder that no step is wasted if you stay curious.

Mark’s Resources:
Outside Magazine
Red Mountain Sedona

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On this episode of Success is Subjective, Joanna brings you another story from our special former participant series where she extends the opportunity for former participants to share their journey with others. Today’s former participant is Sam Hayes.

Despite early struggles with identity, family pressure, mental health, and finding stability, Sam’s story is one of transformation. With raw honesty, he shares how his treatment journey—full of resistance, reflection, and eventually real change—led him to a place of peace, self-acceptance, and passion for helping others. His insight into healing, and what it actually takes to maintain it, is a powerful reminder that success is never linear—and never too late.

NOTE: The podcasts in this series can include sensitive subjects such as suicide, self-harm, substance abuse, hospitalizations, psychotic episodes, and other traumatic experiences which include parts of the treatment journey. No topic is off limits and not all stories are positive but they are real, raw, and transparent.

**Listener discretion is advised**

Sam’s Resources:
Drew Horowitz & Associates
Email: sam.hayes@drewhorowitzassociates.com

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