There seems to be a sea of things that we can find overwhelming these days. How do we move through it all without becoming bogged down? In this episode, producer Sam talks to Phoebe Atkinson, Lissy Cole, and Rudi Robinson about the ways they see and approach overwhelming circumstances. Later on, Petra sits down with Rachel Kitchens, a spiritual director, to talk about her own experiences and a handful of practical tips. To be clear, this episode doesn't address the overwhelming nature of serious physical or mental health issues. The sense of overwhelm focussed on applies to otherwise healthy people who find either personal or global circumstances to be just too much at times. Wherever you're at, feel free to join us.

Haere mai!

Sacred Texts:

• Michael Leunig's poem
• Tuesdays with Morrie by Mitch Albom (pages 102 to 104)

Music:

• Come and Play in the Milky Night - Demo by Stereolab (played to open Phoebe's interview)
• Huia by Aro (played to open Lissy and Rudi's interview)
• Cumbia Sobre el Mar y Quantic (played during Sam's bike ride)
• Those Days by Dal and Leah Yager (played during Michael Leunig's poem)
• You Got The Love by Candi Staton and The Source
• Space 1 by Nala Sinephro (played during Tuesdays with Morrie reading)
• Sun Rays Like Stilts by Tommy Geurero (played to end communion)
• Helplessness Blues by Fleet Foxes
• FTA by Whitney (played to end Rachel's interview)
• Space is the Place by Ezra Collective (played during the benediction)

Are we living in an age that's ugly by design? This question arose after Petra and producer Sam read an article by the writer Andrew Shamy. The second in a series called "The Museum of Things We've Lost", Andrew unpacks the role of beauty and the consequences of its absence. In this episode of Sunday Sanctuary, Petra is joined by both Andrew and architectural design lecturer Abby Temby-Spence. As always, space is made for reflection alongside great waiata/music. Haere mai!

Sacred texts:

• Andrew Shamy's article. His whole substack is well worth looking through, and maybe even subscribing to....
• This edition of Nick Cave's Red Hand Files

Music:

1. You are the Gold by Terrible Sons (Intro song)
2. Climb by Laura Misch (played at the end of the into)
3. 100% by Boycrush (played at the end of Andrew's interview)
4. Mona Lisa by Nat King Cole
5. Moon Age by Duster (played underneath Nick Cave's Red hand File)
6. Slider - Lorenzo Saxophone Dub by This Is The Kit (played during the time for contemplation)
7. Wash by Bon Iver (played at the end of communion)
8. I Love My Leather Jacket by The Chills
9. Two Fish and an Elephant by Khruangbin (played to end Abby's interview)
10. Caja de la Sala by Khruangbin (played under Petra's poem)

Mānawatia a Matariki!! Producer Sam has a brief thought to share tied to Matariki weekend. We hope you find space to embrace the themes of Matariki this year.

We'll be back next week with a new episode.

Music:

- Ruru by Aro