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TEXT AND ROCK.

TEXT AND ROCK.

Auteur(s): Mark Shaffer and Eric Madison
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Ancient myth and artifact meet poetry and rhythm for the post-modern soul.​

Hosted by Mark Shaffer and Eric Madison, TEXT AND ROCK is a weekly podcast that bridges the gap between ancient wisdom and contemporary life. Mark, an antiquarian, writer, and part-time punk rocker, and Eric, a musician, podcaster, and rhythm instructor, delve into topics ranging from biblical texts and ancient artifacts to modern spirituality and cultural critique. Their engaging discussions aim to help listeners read the Bible like an ancient and have faith like a modern.​

Whether you're seeking to deepen your understanding of sacred texts, explore the intersections of faith and culture, or simply enjoy thought-provoking conversations, TEXT AND ROCK offers a unique perspective that resonates with the post-modern soul.​

For more content, including poetry and video, visit www.textandrock.com.​

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  • HOUSE OF THE WORLD. HAPPY HOLIDAYS TEXT AND ROCKERS!
    Dec 23 2025

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    Merry Christmas friends! kk here goes:

    HOUSE OF THE WORLD.

    Ancient story and artifact meets lo-fi and Mediterranean hip hop in this journey to reclaim the art of the Bible’s creation story. Poetry… in cosmological motion. haha!

    HOUSE OF THE WORLD was craft-brewed to give you the wisdom that our end is in our beginning.

    If you grew up with the Bible and it seemed like you were the only one who had serious questions about the creation story... here is a way forward with full acceptance of science and reason applied to ancient literature in context.

    We think this can profoundly help you rediscover who you are and what you are here to do and how to hold the sacred text of your childhood now that you've grown up.

    Along the way you'll

    • learn how the world made in Genesis 1 is less "planet spinning in space and more cosmic snow globe floating safely through chaos waters."
    • discover how in creation myths, the creator God makes the world by separating into realms (sky, land, sea) and assigning roles (flying things, land animals, sea creatures).
    • observe what it means in context to be made in the statue (צלם) of the divine counsel and ask "what is the best way to be a divine counsel mini-figure anyways?"
    • meet a lovable collection of archetypal-first-humans from near Eastern Literature and consider what the first humans in first human stories actually represent.
    • explore ancient artifacts and musings from ancient literature like the Book of the Dead and the Epic of Gilgamesh to Seneca, New Testament authors, and Rabbinic Midrash Agaddah.

    At the end of the day, we made HOUSE OF THE WORLD to help you reclaim ancient story for a better tomorrow. See you inside!

    Be good to each other!

    Mark and Eric


    For Text and Rock Poetry, Podcasts, and Video Content or to contact Mark and Eric, visit us at www.textandrock.com.

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    1 h et 23 min
  • FAITH AND DOUBT 06. HOW TO BE FRIENDS ON THE SPECTRUM OF FAITH AND DOUBT AND MORE ON FAITH AS A CREED.
    Dec 7 2025

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    A friend of the show and I continue talking about faith and doubt. This episode we chat about how to be sincere friends with people we love all across the spectrum of faith and doubt. Serving your atheist friend might be the most Christian thing you can do. A lot of times being right is less important than being in healthy relationships.

    We also talk about how many people frame God in very specific ways-- God is the judgmental father in the sky, God is like Santa Clause, God is like an angry storm God-- but this imagery often comes out our own wounds and disappointment.

    Then we pivot and talk more about faith in God and particularly Christianity is not a religion, it is a creed. At least for Mark, he tries to let go of faith as being convinced of uncertain theological tenets or even miracles, and instead about binding yourself to an ethical creed centered around the teachings of Jesus.

    We hope you love it!


    For Text and Rock Poetry, Podcasts, and Video Content or to contact Mark and Eric, visit us at www.textandrock.com.

    You can find all of social handles here:

    TEXT AND ROCK SOCIALS.

    Want to support the show, experience our best creative work, buy one of our books or give an uncommonly better gift or art and heart? Ha! Head to the TEXT AND ROCK DIGITAL PRESS.


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    25 min
  • FAITH AND DOUBT 05. GOD WEARS KID GLOVES.
    Nov 30 2025

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    A friend of the show and I continue talking about faith and doubt. This episode we talk about what to do when the bottom falls out-- to have faith or not to have faith?

    We both believe that whenever something truly horrible happens, we actually have a choice whether to lean into God/Source/Universe/Being/Oneness, or to lean out. At these times people either grow in faith immensely or become very bitter and angry.

    Along the way, we talk about Jesus' disciple Thomas, hope for all of us part-time believers, and how God fights us with kid gloves.

    We hope you love it!


    For Text and Rock Poetry, Podcasts, and Video Content or to contact Mark and Eric, visit us at www.textandrock.com.

    You can find all of social handles here:

    TEXT AND ROCK SOCIALS.

    Want to support the show, experience our best creative work, buy one of our books or give an uncommonly better gift or art and heart? Ha! Head to the TEXT AND ROCK DIGITAL PRESS.


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    20 min
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