Peter Reali is Project Development Director for the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies and a founding member of the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics' UAP research group. His published work includes forensic analyses of controversial cases—including the "Rubber Duck" UAP video, where he applied engineering principles to evaluate what the footage actually shows versus what people claimed it showed. His research papers tackle questions like how to build optimal electromagnetic signature detection systems and what we can actually determine about flight characteristics from existing sensor data.

Peter calls himself a "nuts-and-bolts" researcher—not in the sense of dismissing anything that challenges conventional physics, but in insisting on methodological discipline. Start with what the instruments recorded. Work outward from there.

We talk about what that approach means in practice: how he evaluates claims about recovered craft, alleged abductions, and theories ranging from extraterrestrial origin to interdimensional beings to something stranger. We discuss the Rubber Duck analysis and other cases that have withstood his scrutiny, what $10 million in research funding could actually accomplish, and why the hardest part of UAP research might not be the physics—it might be convincing the scientific establishment that the question is worth asking.

Dr. Andrea Lani is an aerospace engineer with a PhD in Engineering Sciences. As an aerospace engineer with PhD in Engineering Sciences, he has worked for NASA, Stanford, NATO Science & Technology Organization, and the Von Karman Institute. He has been a member of the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics since 2007, and member of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies since 023. He is currently research and team manager at the Catholic University of Leuven's Center for Mathematical Plasma Astrophysics in Belgium. He has authored or co-authored over 100 scientific papers, and he's lead the development of computational models for hypersonic flows, for the re-entry of space craft, for space weather simulations, and for a magnetic shielding for spacecraft. Dr. Lani has been an experiencer of UAP and of non-human intelligences experiencer since 1983. He's discussed these experiences in interviews elsewhere including on News Nation with Ross Coulthart.

We discuss the wide range of experiences that Dr. Lani has had, along with the data, video, and photographic evidence that he has collected on these experiences, which range from UAP to temporal glitches and remarkable meditation experiences. Dr. Lani's experience is a perfect demonstration of the variety of unusual modes of experience that often accompany, or are accompanied by, UAP cases. We think you'll enjoy this interview for its unique combination of hard scientific evidence and highly unusual experience.

As with other interviews in the UAP Witness series, there are two versions of this interview: a condensed one and a full-length, deep-dive version. This is the short version.

Dr. Andrea Lani is an aerospace engineer with a PhD in Engineering Sciences. As an aerospace engineer with PhD in Engineering Sciences, he has worked for NASA, Stanford, NATO Science & Technology Organization, and the Von Karman Institute. He has been a member of the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics since 2007, and member of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies since 023. He is currently research and team manager at the Catholic University of Leuven's Center for Mathematical Plasma Astrophysics in Belgium. He has authored or co-authored over 100 scientific papers, and he's lead the development of computational models for hypersonic flows, for the re-entry of space craft, for space weather simulations, and for a magnetic shielding for spacecraft. Dr. Lani has been an experiencer of UAP and of non-human intelligences experiencer since 1983. He's discussed these experiences in interviews elsewhere including on News Nation with Ross Coulthart.

We discuss the wide range of experiences that Dr. Lani has had, along with the data, video, and photographic evidence that he has collected on these experiences, which range from UAP to temporal glitches and remarkable meditation experiences. Dr. Lani's experience is a perfect demonstration of the variety of unusual modes of experience that often accompany, or are accompanied by, UAP cases. We think you'll enjoy this interview for its unique combination of hard scientific evidence and highly unusual experience.

As with other interviews in the UAP Witness series, there are two versions of this interview: a condensed one and a full-length, deep-dive version. This is the full version.