We break down how leadership, culture, and accountability drive success—using the Cleveland Browns as a case study—why creating a culture matters more than schemes and products
0:30 Mike and Brook open with “Defeat Monday,” reacting to another disappointing Browns loss and the growing frustration with the team’s culture.
3:00 Mike calls out Kevin Stefanski’s leadership and the lack of accountability, using historical Browns coaching failures as comparison.
8:30 The discussion turns to benching players, suspensions, and the urgent need for real discipline in the locker room.
15:30 The hosts revisit Baker Mayfield, past Browns rebuilds, and how poor coaching decisions derailed multiple promising seasons.
23:00 Mike and Brook debate potential head coaching replacements like Jim Schwartz and Brian Flores, agreeing the Browns must prioritize culture over quarterbacks.

Defeat Monday, Shedeur Sanders looks like the future at quarterback and Kevin Stefanski needs to go NOW. Mike and Brook argue the Browns need to give Kevin and family a trip to the beach and let Jim Schwartz run the team on a interim bases. Focus on Shedeur and the change in the culture of losing. Compares Stefanski to Captain Queeg of The Caine Mutiny and calls for a true accountability-driven coach.

0:30 Mike and Brook open on “Defeat Monday,” reacting to the loss but agreeing Shedeur Sanders looks like the future at quarterback.
2:15 Discussion on why Kevin Stefanski is likely finished in Cleveland and why the Haslams should move on immediately.
6:15 Mike breaks down how Shedeur’s deep throws opened up the entire offense and exposed the Titans’ defense.
14:00 Mike and Brook argues the Browns must now build around Shedeur — focusing on offensive line, wide receivers, and a culture-change head coach.
19:30 Mike compares Stefanski to Captain Queeg from The Caine Mutiny and calls for a true accountability-driven coach like Jim Schwartz.

Mike and Brook discuss the pathetic state of the Head Coaching in the latest loss to the 49'ers. From more special teams blow ups to the incompetent and complicated 4th down play calling and another player sideline drama with Jerry Jeudy. And of course, the endless 'nails on the chalkboard' responses by Stefansky that he has to 'coach better'.

Again, it's time for a change. And Jim Schwartz is what 'change' looks like.

0:30 Mike and Brook open with “Defeat Monday,” reacting to another disappointing Browns loss and the growing frustration with the team’s culture.
3:00 Mike calls out Kevin Stefanski’s leadership and the lack of accountability, using historical Browns coaching failures as comparison.
8:30 The discussion turns to benching players, suspensions, and the urgent need for real discipline in the locker room.
15:30 The hosts revisit Baker Mayfield, past Browns rebuilds, and how poor coaching decisions derailed multiple promising seasons.
23:00 Mike and Brook debate potential head coaching replacements like Jim Schwartz and Brian Flores, agreeing the Browns must prioritize culture over quarterbacks.

Mike and Brook break down Shedeur's first game and win against Raiders and the implications of what Shedeur's development can do for next season. If he was listed in the Top 5 pre draft, why did he go to the 5th round??? Was he really that bad? Or was it too much Prime Time hype that scared people away?

0:30Mike and Brook open the episode by reacting to the Browns’ win and Shedeur Sanders’ pre-game confidence and strong first performance.
3:00 Mike dives into draft expectations, explaining why Shedeur was viewed as a first-round talent long before falling to the fifth round.
7:00 Discussion on Shedeur’s arm talent, downfield throws, and how his presence opens up the run game and unlocks the Browns’ offense.
12:00 Mike and Brook analyze how the defense, special teams, and young offensive players are suddenly clicking, setting up several winnable games.
16:00 They compare Shedeur’s early spark to past Browns moments (like Baker’s Jets/Raiders games) and explain why Stefanski must stick with him moving forward.

Browns organization and most media are once again asking the wrong question — it’s not about the quarterback, it’s about the head coach. Mike and Brook say the Browns’ real problem is leadership, not talent. What is the point of drafting a top flight QB if the Head Coach is not a Leader? It's a classic chicken and egg. Bill Parcells developed Phil Simms and Tony Romo. Lombardi took the lowly 15th round QB Bart Starr and turned him into a HOF. Bill Walsh developed two great QB's. Don Shula and Bob Griese. Andy Reid and Mahones. Meanwhile, Coach Stefansky has failed to develop ANY QB's starting with Baker and ending with Deshaun. All got worse under his mentorship. People forget that Dehaun was an MVP QB. In the Top 5. How did he get so bad?? A Head Coach is supposed to be the Head of the Culture first, and not a play caller. The Head Coach.'coaches' his assistants. And finally a Head Coach needs to 'confront' and not hide within the organization. Who cares how 'smart' they are with schemes, if they don't know how to Lead and Teach. Both are qualities of great, legendary Head Coaches. So don't ask yourself who are the QB's in the draft, ask how we find and develop a HOF Head Coach.
00:30 Mike opens the episode by reflecting on the Browns’ long history of failed coaches, from Paul Brown’s predictable final years to Blanton Collier’s innovation and success.
04:30 Brook and Mike break down another sloppy Browns loss, pointing out how penalties, play-calling, and poor preparation reveal a deeper coaching problem.
07:00 Mike argues that Stefanski’s biggest flaw is avoiding confrontation — from Baker Mayfield to OBJ and Deshaun Watson — and why the Browns’ culture of “no accountability” is toxic.
12:00 The duo discusses how to actually fix the franchise — comparing past greats like Lombardi and Parcells to Cleveland’s timid leadership. Mike calls for Jim Schwartz or Brian Flores as real culture-change options.
27:00 Mike and Brook close the episode emphasizing that it’s not about quarterbacks or draft picks — it’s about leadership. The show ends with fiery sideline soundbites from Bill Parcells and Jon Gruden to prove the point.

Mike and Brook debate whether talent is more important than coaching. Mike points out that Vince Lombardi inherited a 1-13 team in '58. Two years later that same team with the same players were in the NFL Title Game. Talent is important, but Coaching is about developing that talent. Baker Mayfield was NOT developed by Kevin S. in fact he was ruined. The same case can be made for Gabriel. Fire Stefansky, bring in veteran Jim Schwartz to bring some 'salt' to the locker room and let the young OC do his thing. Remember that was the play that was called when Greg Williams took over from the hapless Hue Jackson (another so called QB whisperer) and stabilized the ship with Freddy K running the offense. Kevin S will never be a Bill Parcells, Vince L, Bill Cowher, Sean Payton, or any top HOF coaches and that is what the Brown's desperately need now. And remember, waiting in the wings... one more year of Deshaun Watson !
0:00 Mike opens the episode criticizing Kevin Stefanski’s coaching and questioning the team’s offensive direction.
3:00 Discussion on repeated early scoring followed by stalled drives — and why Stefanski’s scripted plays stop working mid-game.
8:30 Brook says the Browns’ problems start at the top with ownership and lack of accountability.
14:30 Mike compares the Browns to the Lions, emphasizing how coaching and culture, not talent, drive success.
23:45 The hosts close by calling for Stefanski’s firing, promoting Jim Schwartz to interim coach, and rebuilding the team’s mindset during the bye week.

Cleveland Browns fans hesitate to celebrate victory Monday today over the Dolphins. The fans aren't happy yet. They want Shedeur Sanders. Mike and Brook say a win is a win and look forward to the next game against the Patriots. We want the Browns to get better and better, not go in circles. If we lose, let's at least not lose stupid. Mike also gives updated predictions for the rest of the season.
0:30 Mike opens the episode, reflecting on the Browns’ “Victory Monday” and comparing it to past false dawns in Cleveland football.
2:00 Brook breaks down why the win over Miami still matters, praising the defense, run game, and Stefanski’s improved game plan.
4:00 Mike and Brook discuss how Dylan Gabriel’s smart, turnover-free play is giving the Browns stability — and why it feels like a return to old-school Browns football.
9:00 The team previews the upcoming game against New England, debating whether the Browns’ momentum can continue against a tougher opponent.
17:00 Mike and Brook talk about the importance of leadership, accountability, and playing to win — tying the Browns’ mindset to what real progress looks like in any organization.

Mike, Brook and A'marri talk about managing, leadership and the Cleveland Browns.
There is irony in the statement from Kevin Stefanski's first press conference as The Browns coach, "Personality is welcome, production is required." as all we see is platitudes and "personality" in the Browns organization and no production. There is plenty to learn from this as the owner of a small business from how to confront bad attitudes and performance, addition by subtraction, walking the talk as a manager and more.
0:00 Mike opens the podcast, introducing the topic of managing and coaching — connecting lessons from business management to leadership in football.
2:00 Brook explains why confrontation is essential for effective management, whether dealing with players, employees, or customers.
4:45 A’marri emphasizes the importance of setting boundaries and confronting issues immediately to maintain leadership authority.
6:00 Mike comares workplace fairness to the Browns’ lack of accountability, criticizing inconsistent standards and poor culture.
14:00 The team discusses Kevin Stefanski’s “production is required” quote and how real leadership demands consistent results and accountability — in both football and business.