Navigating the Cybersecurity Job Market: Insights with Brendan Cronin

In this episode of the Cybersecurity Recruiter Podcast, Tom is joined by Brendan Cronin to discuss their long-awaited conversation on the cybersecurity job market.

Brendan shares his career journey, starting as a teacher and progressing through various roles including network engineering and management at Verizon, to his current position at Vigilant Solutions. They delve into the impact of the internet boom, the cyclical nature of the market, and the transformative effect of AI.

The discussion also covers practical advice for job seekers, emphasizing the importance of adaptability, leveraging relationships, and personalizing job applications. Brendan highlights the increasing importance of niche areas in cybersecurity, especially related to AI, and the need for well-rounded skill sets.

The episode wraps up with book recommendations and personal anecdotes, providing valuable insights for both job seekers and industry professionals.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:56 Brendan Cronin's Career Journey

01:51 The Evolution of Cybersecurity

04:30 AI and Market Cycles

06:35 Job Market Challenges and Strategies

10:40 The Rise of AI and Automation

14:24 Security Threats and Job Market Realities

18:39 The Impact of AI on Job Markets

19:12 Challenges in Job Applications

20:04 Recruitment Strategies and Automation

20:25 Navigating Job Market Realities

23:29 Adapting to Technological Changes

25:51 Breaking into Cybersecurity

27:58 The Future of Cybersecurity and AI

31:03 The Importance of Continuous Learning

32:21 Recommended Resources and Tools

35:45 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections

Brendan recommends:

The Cuckoo's Egg by Clifford Stoll

Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin’s Most Dangerous Hackers by Andy Greenberg

Fancy Bear Goes Phishing by Scott J. Shapiro

The Checklist Manifesto by Atul Gawande

From System Admin to VP of Product Security: Ed Hagopian's Journey in Cybersecurity

In this episode of the Cyber Security Recruiter podcast, Thomas welcomes guest Ed Hagopian, VP of Product Security at Cream City Cyber.

Ed shares his career trajectory from a CIS admin to a leading role, emphasizing a hands-on approach, relentless curiosity, and the importance of adaptability in the fast-evolving tech landscape. He discusses his early interest in computers, driven by his father's encouragement, and how this passion led to pivotal roles at North Western Mutual, Microsoft, and Dell.

The conversation highlights the value of building strong teams, continuous learning, and positive mindset in overcoming career challenges and embracing technological advancements like AI and machine learning.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:28 Ed's Career Journey

02:52 Early Passion for Computers

05:20 Challenges and Setbacks

10:10 AI and Machine Learning Insights

13:14 The Future of AI and Security

15:31 Identity Proofing and Trust

21:16 AI in Music and Media

21:54 AI in Cybersecurity: Detection and Defense

22:21 The Rise of AI in Music

22:33 Career Advice for Aspiring Professionals

23:17 The Importance of Hands-On Learning

24:09 Mentorship and Skill Development

26:05 Implementing a Risk Assessment Program

27:34 The Value of Demonstrable Proficiency

28:15 Adapting to Technological Changes

32:01 The Power of Positive Attitude

36:42 Recommended Books and Continuous Learning

41:28 Final Thoughts and Farewell

Ed suggested:

Never Split the Difference

Christopher Voss and Tahl Raz

Enhancing Communication Skills for Cybersecurity Professionals with Josh Hohbein

In this episode of the Cyber Security Recruiter podcast, Thomas welcomes Josh Hohbein, an experienced security professional with a rich background in various roles, including restaurant management.

Josh discusses how skills learned in the service industry have been invaluable in cybersecurity, emphasizing the importance of communication and soft skills. The conversation covers the need for effective public speaking, client interactions, and building trust, especially as AI and technology evolve.

Josh also shares practical advice for those looking to improve their communication abilities and emphasizes the growing importance of well-rounded skillsets in the cybersecurity field.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:47 Josh's Career Journey

01:33 The Value of Soft Skills in Cybersecurity

04:03 Real-Life Examples of Soft Skills in Action

10:23 Enhancing Communication Skills

13:05 The Future of Communication in the Age of AI

16:47 The Importance of Going Above and Beyond in Service

17:44 Drawing Parallels Between Restaurant Compliance and Cybersecurity

19:03 The Power of Effective Communication in Client Relations

23:12 Transitioning from Restaurant Management to Cybersecurity

28:03 The Value of Hands-On Experience in Cybersecurity

32:05 The Importance of Concise Communication and Continuous Learning

34:59 Conclusion and Final Thoughts 

Josh suggested:

 Official Guide to Public Speaking by Chris Anderson

Udemy,  EQ versus IQ

Exploring Cybersecurity Careers: Insights from Philippe Caturegli, Chief Hacking Officer, Seralys

In this episode of the Cyber Security Recruiter podcast, Thomas is joined by Philippe, a seasoned cybersecurity professional with an extensive career in web development and security roles.

Philippe shares his journey from vulnerability researcher to Chief Hacking Officer of his own firm, Seralys, and discusses the importance of passion and curiosity in cybersecurity. He touches on how AI is revolutionizing the field but emphasizes the irreplaceable value of human expertise.

Philippe also talks about the importance of understanding the business impact of vulnerabilities and offers advice for aspiring pentesters. The episode provides valuable insights into the challenges and rewards of a career in cybersecurity.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:32 Philippe's Career Journey

01:20 LinkedIn and Content Sharing

02:54 Day in the Life of a Chief Hacking Officer

03:40 The Importance of Hands-On Experience

09:07 AI in Cybersecurity

11:33 Staying Updated in Cybersecurity

13:02 Transitioning to Entrepreneurship

17:16 Understanding Developer Shortcuts

17:41 Recommended Programming Languages

18:36 Legacy Systems and Security

19:00 Getting into Pen Testing

19:38 Bug Bounty Programs

20:35 The Art of Exploitation

21:26 The Importance of Proof of Concept

25:56 Building a Strong Security Team

29:03 Real-World Security Challenges

30:36 Career Advice and Growth

32:23 Recommended Reading and Resources

33:34 Conclusion and Farewell

Philippe suggested:

Kevin Mitnick’s Books

Philippe's LinkedIn profile:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/caturegli/

From Ground Zero to Success: Rob McGowan's Journey in Cybersecurity

In this episode of the Cyber Security Recruiter podcast, Thomas interviews Rob McGowan, President of R3, who shares his journey from being a VP of Operations at BD Net Corp to leading R3. Rob discusses the challenges he faced, including the logistics of balancing a demanding schedule, family responsibilities, and starting a business from scratch.

He emphasizes the importance of physical fitness, mental health, determination, and a strong support system. Rob also touches on his company's strategic decisions, such as adopting cloud-first methodologies and maintaining a high-growth mindset despite market conditions. He shares his hiring philosophy, focusing on drive, ambition, and the willingness to take risks. The importance of mentorship and mental health in his personal and professional life is also highlighted.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

01:04 Rob McGowan's Background and Career Journey

01:49 A Day in the Life of Rob McGowan

04:30 The Leap to Entrepreneurship

00:17 Building and Scaling R3

14:19 Navigating Market Challenges and Growth Strategies

22:17 Future Aspirations and Closing Thoughts

24:18 The Importance of Work and Identity

25:34 The Role of Mentors in Personal Growth

25:49 Mental Health and Personal Experiences

27:36 Coping Mechanisms and Self-Awareness

29:20 The Impact of Meditation and Stress Management

31:14 Challenges and Lessons in Business

39:51 Hiring the Right People

44:11 Influential Books and Podcasts

46:42 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Rob suggested:

Good to Great by Jim Collins

Acquired podcast hosted by Ben Gilbert and David Rosenthal

What Got You Here Won’t Get You There by Marshall Goldsmith

The E-Myth Revisited by Michael E. Gerber

The Innovative Seller by Jake Dunlap

Navigating the Cybersecurity Job Market with Michael Lisi

In this episode of the Cyber Security Recruiter Podcast, Thomas is joined by Michael Lisi, who shares insights into the bustling opportunities within the cybersecurity space despite current market layoffs.

Michael discusses his extensive background from programmer analyst to multiple roles, including President of Red Team Village and Founder of Maltek Solutions. They dive into a typical day in Michael's life, his transition from employee to business owner, and the unique challenges and rewards that come with it.

Michael shares specific strategies for new business development, particularly leveraging job postings to find clients in need of immediate assistance. They also explore the impact of AI on the industry, the significance of community involvement, and how volunteer work can lead to unexpected opportunities.

Finally, they touch upon pivotal books that influenced Michael's career, providing invaluable advice for aspiring cybersecurity professionals and business owners.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:18 Current Cybersecurity Landscape

01:16 Mike's Career Journey

02:11 A Day in the Life of Mike

05:05 Transition from Employee to Employer

09:15 The Role of AI in Cybersecurity

15:16 Nurturing Junior Talent

21:05 Team Dynamics and Customer Insights

22:14 Improving Communication and Presentation Skills

22:41 Transitioning to Offensive Security

25:54 Starting a Freelance Penetration Testing Business

30:33 Networking and Volunteering for Career Growth

34:23 The Importance of Long-Term Business Relationships

35:58 Recommended Books for Career and Business Success

40:02 Final Thoughts and Future Plans

Michael suggested:

 Art of Intrusion by Kevin Mitnick

Ghost In The Wires by Kevin Mitcnick 

The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks

Navigating the Transition from Federal to Commercial Cybersecurity with Matthew Legler

In this episode of the Cyber Security Recruiter Podcast, Thomas welcomes Matthew Legler, an experienced professional with a rich background in naval reactors and cybersecurity.

Matt shares his journey from working in naval reactors to becoming the Chief Information Officer (CIO) and later transitioning into the commercial sector as a founder and director of cyber engineering. He emphasizes the importance of communication, building relationships, and staying adaptable in the fast-evolving field of cybersecurity.

Matt also discusses his experiences with AI, the challenges of aligning educational curricula with industry needs, and the value of standing out in a competitive job market.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:33 Matt's Background and Career Journey

01:16 Transitioning from Navy to Commercial Sector

02:49 Challenges and Adaptability in Cybersecurity

04:37 The Role of AI in Cybersecurity

05:46 Education and AI Integration

07:59 Navigating the Commercial World

17:18 Communication and Leadership Skills

20:14 The Struggle to Write Well

20:57 Upskilling Through Experience

22:05 The Role of AI in Writing

23:10 Navigating Job Offers and Applications

24:38 The Importance of Personal Connections

27:13 Hiring Insights and Skills Demand

30:00 The Future of Work and Education

32:58 Learning and Self-Development Resources

36:47 Concluding Thoughts

Mastering MedTech Cybersecurity: A Journey with Christian Espinosa

In this episode of the Cybersecurity Recruiter Podcast, Thomas interviews Christian Espinosa, an accomplished cybersecurity expert and entrepreneur.

Christian shares his experiences and insights from his diverse career, which began in the US Air Force and progressed through various roles to founding Blue Goat Cyber, a MedTech cybersecurity company.

They discuss Christian's extensive travels, his passion for continuous learning, and the challenges and strategies of transitioning from the military to the commercial sector. Christian delves into the specific challenges of MedTech cybersecurity, emphasizing the importance of niche focus, understanding regulatory requirements, and the critical nature of patient safety. The conversation also covers the significance of emotional intelligence in cybersecurity, the impact of a strong leadership team, and Christian's journey of personal growth and resilience, including overcoming serious health challenges.

Christian talks about the 2 books he has published, and the 3rd he is currently writing. Tune in to gain valuable insights on cybersecurity, entrepreneurship, and the power of mindset.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome

00:11 Travel Plans and Adventures

01:46 Christian's Background and Career Journey

02:50 A Day in the Life of Christian

05:16 Transitioning from Military to Commercial

08:17 Entrepreneurial Challenges and Growth

12:55 Scaling and Leadership

17:27 Niche Focus and Community Building

22:03 The High Stakes of MedTech Cybersecurity

23:29 Transitioning from Traditional to MedTech Cybersecurity

28:08 The Complexities of MedTech Penetration Testing

30:20 Christian's Journey: From Cybersecurity to Author and Speaker

34:07 Overcoming Personal Challenges and Shifting Narratives

38:57 Future Goals and Aspirations for Blue Goat Cyber

Christian suggested:

$100M Offers by Alex Hormozi.

The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks.

The Smartest Person in the Room by Christian Espinosa

The In-Between: Life in the Macro by Christian Espinosa