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The Exit Interview: A Podcast for Black Educators

The Exit Interview: A Podcast for Black Educators

Auteur(s): Dr. Asia Lyons
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Amidst all of the conversations about the recruitment of Black educators, where are the discussions about retention? The Exit Interview podcast was created to elevate the stories of Black educators who have been pushed out of the classroom, main or central office. The podcast asks guests to share their education journey, the "last straw" that made them decide to leave education, and, most importantly, what they are doing now that they have left the traditional education sphere.Copyright 2024 Dr. Asia Lyons Développement personnel Réussite
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  • Calling On Ancestral Wisdom with Dr. Jeanine L. Williams
    Dec 9 2025
    In this episode, Dr. Asia welcomes Jeanine L. Williams, PhD, a retired educator turned ancestral medicine woman, for a powerful conversation about liberation, sovereignty, and healing beyond academia. Dr. Williams shares her journey through higher education, the challenges of navigating oppressive systems, and the importance of community care and ancestral wisdom.

    Together, they discuss the need for Black educators to reclaim their wholeness, set boundaries, and embrace self-care.
    The episode offers inspiration and practical advice for anyone seeking healing, empowerment, and a deeper connection to their roots.
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    1 h et 6 min
  • When Silence Is Violence with Kamye Hugley
    Nov 26 2025
    In this episode, I sit down with educator and bibliophile Kamye Hugley to explore what happens when Black women in education refuse to stay quiet in the face of harm.
    Kamye traces her journey from her grandmothers urging to be a teacher, to a Teach For America placement that threw her from third grade to Head Start mid-year, to a Head Start classroom tucked in a portable with coyotes underneath and systems that treated early childhood like babysitting instead of brain-building.
    She shares the heartbreak of referring students for support only to be ignored, the letter she wrote to a district leader that quietly shifted hiring practices, and her time teaching high school intensive reading, where one administrators careless comment about test scores pushed seniors out of school entirely.
    Together, Kamye and I discuss how these moments accumulate as racial battle fatigue and weathering and why, for Kamye, remaining silent feels like violence against herself. This episode invites listeners to consider: What does it mean to protect your wellness and still tell the truth about the systems harming you and your students?
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    1 h et 30 min
  • Black Educator Wellness & The Cost of Leadership with Dr. Ashlee Saddler, MSW
    Nov 11 2025
    In this powerful episode of The Exit Interview, Dr. Ashlee Saddler shares her journey from mental health professional to educational leader, and the unique challenges she faced as a Black woman in predominantly white school systems. Dr. Saddler opens up about the emotional and physical toll of leadership, including her battle with breast cancera diagnosis she links to the relentless stress and self-sacrifice demanded of Black educators.
    Through candid storytelling, Dr. Saddler and host Dr. Asia discuss the systemic barriers, microaggressions, and expectations placed on Black women in education, as well as the importance of community, self-advocacy, and wellness. Listeners will hear about the power of mentorship, the necessity of setting boundaries, and the ongoing fight for equity and recognition in schools.
    This episode is both a testimony and a call to action: to honor the lived experiences of Black educators, to believe their stories, and to create spaces where they can thrivenot just survive. Whether youre an educator, leader, or ally, Dr. Saddlers insights will inspire you to reflect on your own wellness and the systems we must change together.
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    1 h et 6 min
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