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The Foreign Area Officer Podcast

The Foreign Area Officer Podcast

Auteur(s): Michael Hill
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A podcast for the Foreign Area Officer Community to encourage mentorship and solidarity.Copyright 2023 All rights reserved. Politique Sciences politiques
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  • #32 - MAJ(P) Jacob Myers
    Sep 12 2025

    Meet MAJ(P) Promotable Jacob Myers, currently serving at the Military Advising Training Academy (MATA) at Fort Benning, Georgia. Our discussion covers the purpose and function of MATA, the development and training of military advisors, and the history and evolution of Security Force Assistance Brigades (SFABs). Myers elaborates on his experience in Latvia, the challenges of building rapport and training in a foreign country, and the rapidly changing dynamics in Eastern Europe following Russia's invasion of Ukraine. We also touch on FAO professional development, the importance of language skills, and the valuable interactions and learning opportunities throughout a FAO’s career.

    Books Discussed:

    • Between Two Giants, Brit Batar
    • The Russians, Hedrick Smith
    • Kiril Yaskov, The Last Ring Bearer

    00:00 Introduction and Disclaimers

    00:45 Meet Major Promotable Jacob Myers

    01:11 Understanding the Military Advising Training Academy (MATA)

    02:29 History and Evolution of Security Force Assistance Brigades (SFABs)

    06:53 Training and Deployment of Military Advisors

    10:22 Challenges and Realities of Military Advising

    14:05 Combat Advisor Training Course (CATC) Overview

    19:14 Practical Training and Exercises

    28:50 Expanding Training to Joint Forces and Foreign Partners

    35:25 The Role of FAOs in SFABs

    39:52 Personal Experience and Future Aspirations

    43:51 Understanding the FAO Roles and Responsibilities

    46:02 Navigating Challenges in Latvia During COVID-19

    47:20 Impact of Russia's Invasion of Ukraine on Latvia

    51:02 Strengthening US-Latvia Defense Relations

    01:10:07 Language and Cultural Dynamics in Latvia

    01:20:21 Jacob's Journey: From Basic Training to FAO Program

    01:21:35 Joining the National Guard and Pursuing Active Duty

    01:21:58 Transition to Active Duty and Deployment to Afghanistan

    01:23:02 Experiences in Afghanistan and Promotion to Captain

    01:25:20 Pentagon Assignment and Introduction to FAO

    01:26:14 Discovering the FAO Program and Early Influences

    01:29:58 Training and Assignments as a FAO

    01:30:42 Language Training and Family Experiences

    01:32:27 Marshall Center and Regional Travels

    01:42:35 Importance of Building Relationships and Staying Informed

    01:47:49 Final Thoughts and Advice for FAOs

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    2 h et 2 min
  • #31 - COL(R) JP Gresh
    Aug 8 2025

    What crisis was central to your experience working at a U.S. embassy abroad, for better or worse?

    Join me in a discussion with COL(R) JP Gresh to discuss his experiences in Russia, Ukraine, and the Balkans. The conversation highlights key moments such as the 2013-2014 Ukraine crisis, the challenges of security cooperation in Estonia, and the complexities of working in Russia. Additionally, Gresh shares insights into balancing professional and personal life with a spouse in the Department of State, and offers advice for future FAOs on training, career growth, and the importance of adaptability and maintaining strong interagency relationships. COL(R) Grech also serves as the Co-Editor-in-Chief of the FAOA Journal.

    Books/Organizations Discussed

    • Black Swan, Nassim Nicholas Taleb
    • All the Kremlin’s Men, Mikhail Zygar
    • Between Two Fires, Joshua Yaffa
    • Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible, Peter Pomerantsev
    • FPRI (Foreign Policy Research Institute), www.fpri.org
    • FAOA Journal, www.faoajournal.substack.com

    00:00 Introduction and Disclaimers

    00:46 Meet Colonel JP Gresh

    01:33 Early Military Career

    02:51 Discovering the FAO Path

    03:51 Experiences in Germany and the Balkans

    05:52 Reflections on Iraq

    10:37 Ukraine: First FAO Utilization Tour

    13:47 The 2014 Ukrainian Crisis

    15:57 US-Ukraine Military Relations

    19:52 Strategic Insights on Russia and NATO

    29:44 Lessons from UCOM and Security Cooperation

    50:54 Balancing Dual Careers in the FAO World

    54:14 Reflecting on Professional Challenges and Lessons Learned

    56:44 Navigating a Tandem Career in the Department of State

    57:19 Insights on Managing Dual Professional Careers

    59:33 Experiences and Challenges in Russia

    01:01:10 The Complex Relationship Between the U.S. and Russia

    01:05:48 Living and Working in Moscow

    01:08:54 Surveillance and Daily Life in Moscow

    01:12:46 Diplomatic Restrictions and Challenges

    01:18:27 Family Life and Safety in Russia

    01:23:33 Post-Retirement and Contributions to the FAO Community

    01:28:28 Reflections on FAO Training and Career

    01:44:22 Final Thoughts and Parting Advice

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    1 h et 46 min
  • #30 - Julie and CAPT(R) Tully
    Jul 18 2025

    In this episode of the Foreign Area Officer Podcast, I interview Julie Tully and her husband U.S. Navy CAPT(R) John Tulley. We discuss Julie's transition from a cowgirl in Northern California to a 'nomadic Navy spouse' and the dynamic journey from her career in agriculture to becoming a Foreign Area Officer (FAO) spouse, living and working in Europe and Africa for fifteen consecutive years. The conversation delves into the couple’s experiences living in Cameroon, Nigeria, and Djibouti and the impact of their roles there. They touch on memorable challenges, the importance of self-reliance, and the significant contributions spouses make to the FAO mission. Julie also shares the inspiration and stories behind her book, 'Dispatches from the Cowgirl,' offering a deeper look into the FAO lifestyle and its challenges and rewards.

    Learn More about Julie’s work at www.JulieTullyWriter.com

    Books Discussed:

    • Dispatches of a Cowgirl, by Julie Tully
    • Broadway in Benghazi, by Anna Linvill
    • Out of Africa, by Isak Dinesen (Karen Blixen)

    00:00 Introduction and Disclaimers

    00:45 Meet the Guests: John and Julie Tulley

    01:19 Julie's Journey: From Cowgirl to Navy Spouse

    03:37 Life on the Ranch and Transition to FAO

    04:55 The FAO Lifestyle: Challenges and Adaptations

    14:11 John's Naval Academy and Submarine Experience

    19:16 Discovering the FAO Career Path

    22:07 Julie's Perspective: Public Relations and FAO Life

    25:46 Adventures and Challenges in Africa

    34:16 The Importance of Teamwork in FAO Assignments

    43:10 A Hospital Emergency Room in Nigeria

    57:04 The Commissary Conundrum

    59:10 Internet Surprises in Nigeria

    59:47 Defining Home Across Continents

    01:09:18 Experiencing Local Cultures Through Staff

    01:34:19 Honoring a Fallen Hero in Djibouti

    01:49:14 Reflections on the FAO Life

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    1 h et 53 min
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