In this episode, we chat with Sid from Composio to understand what MCP (Model Context Protocol) really means and how it's changing the way AI tools connect with different apps. Sid explains how MCP helps simplify complex processes and makes it easier for developers and AI agents to access the tools they need.

We also talk about how this technology works behind the scenes, how it compares to APIs, and how big companies like Microsoft and Anthropic are getting involved. Sid shares real examples from Composio, showing how context-aware tools are being built and why they matter.

Whether you're a developer, someone working with AI, or just curious about where this technology is headed, this conversation offers clear explanations and useful insights into a rapidly growing space.

0:00 – Intro & Sid’s Background

1:30 – What Is MCP (Model Context Protocol)?

3:50 – Is MCP a tool

5:40 – What MCP Includes (Resources, Tools, Prompts)

8:55 – Journey of MCP

15:33 – Example of MCP In action

25:00 – Developer Experience & Setup

47:00 – The Future of MCP

Jacob Bank, CEO of Relay and former product lead at Gmail, joins Aishwarya Ashok to explore how AI agents are truly reshaping the way we work. He explains why structured AI workflows solve most real-world needs today and highlights the concept of “spiky intelligence,” where AI excels at some tasks but still needs human direction. Jacob emphasizes that the most important skill in this new era isn’t coding, but the ability to clearly define goals and structure problems for AI. He shares practical ways to use AI not just to replace tasks, but to automate complex, cross-platform outcomes—unlocking new levels of productivity and enabling small teams to achieve big results. 00:00 - Intro 1:17 - Welcome 2:34 - Jacob's Journey: From Google to AI Agents 3:25 - Beyond Tools: Focusing on Workflows & Outcomes11:34 - AI Workflows vs AI Agents: What's the Difference?19:43 - The Human Role: Critical Thinking & Future Skills27:30 - Understanding "Spiky Intelligence" in AI31:30 - How to Start Building Your Own AI Agents43:21 - Demo of Relay53:11 - Summary and Outcome of the agent

Ami Vora, CPO at Faire and former VP of Product & Design at WhatsApp, shares a unique perspective on how fear can be a driving force in decision-making and career growth. Raised in a family where fear played a significant role in shaping decisions, she turned fear into a tool for clarity.Rather than ignoring fear, she acknowledges it, writing down her fears and actively mitigating them when making big decisions, such as accepting a new job. By making the fear explicit, she unravels its power, turning it into actionable insights that help guide her.

Vora's experience reflects the ever-changing landscape of tech, where continuous learning is the only way to remain relevant. She draws on a lesson from a high school teacher, emphasizing the importance of staying on the frontier of knowledge to adapt to the unpredictable nature of the industry. Vora integrates this mindset by constantly challenging herself with low-stakes learning experiences outside of work, like ice skating, to reinforce the mindset of growth and adaptation. She reminds us that, especially in product and AI, there’s a need to embrace curiosity and let go of the pressure to always be right. In a world where everything is evolving rapidly, embracing failure and being comfortable with not knowing is essential for continual progress.Chapters0:00 Technology Won't Save You—Learning Will

2:09 Meet Ami Vora: From WhatsApp to Wild Versatility

4:04 How Jokes Helped Me Lead Through Hard Times

6:18 Turning Liberal Thinking Into a Career Superpower

9:00 What Actually Drives Us? Energy Over Everything

13:00 The Hardest Job I Stayed In—and What It Taught Me

17:00 Fear, Feedback, and Showing Up Anyway

20:00 Context Switching for Humans (Not Just AI)

22:08 The Tools I Trust: Reframing, Fear-Setting, and Closing Loops

36:02 AI, Agency, and Always Being Behind

43:27 Being Right vs Being Curious—The Career Mindset Shift

47:13 Execution > Strategy: Why Doing Beats Planning

51:25 My Career Is a Small Plates Dinner—and That’s a Superpower