Welcome back to The George Janko Show. In Episode 141, I sit down with James Dumoulin, founder of School of Hard Knocks, who learns directly from millionaires and billionaires how money is really made. No theory, no hype. Just real lessons, real mindset shifts, and truths most people never hear. If you want an honest look at how wealth is built, this episode is for you.

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Chapters:

00:00 Why Most People Stay Broke

01:18 Starting With Nothing

02:43 Learning From Billionaires Up Close

04:09 The System Isn’t Built for You

05:40 Why Young People Feel Financially Trapped

07:22 Fame, Money, and Empty Wins

09:15 Watching Wealth Change People

11:34 Logan Paul, Circles, and Access

13:06 The Hidden Cost of Status

15:05 Comedy, Humility, and Earning Respect

16:58 When Success Still Feels Hollow

18:44 Faith That Grounded His Ambition

21:05 Why Money Exposes Identity

23:10 Gratitude as a Wealth Strategy

24:47 Confidence Without Needing Approval

27:15 The Moment He Checked Himself

29:52 Choosing Peace Over More Money

30:22 How He Actually Prays and Thinks

31:04 The Habit That Changed His Direction

31:36 Owning Mistakes Before Growth

33:49 Redefining What “Enough” Means

34:20 God’s Timing With Success

35:35 The Difference Between Belief and Obedience

36:13 A Family Wake-Up Call

37:03 Trusting God Through Fear

38:00 Lessons Learned the Hard Way

40:47 Hearing God Over Opportunity

42:21 Why Discipline Beats Motivation

42:42 New Faith, New Struggles

58:13 Self-Control, Money, and Forgiveness

01:05:36 Gratitude After Real Success

Season 4, Episode 1 is coming in hot after a long break—and we couldn’t have picked a better way to come back. Logan and Jake Paul’s mom sits down with me for a raw, unfiltered conversation you won’t expect. What starts as a story about raising two of the most famous brothers on the internet opens into untold moments, hard truths, and the real story behind her bold new book F the Pauls. We go deeper than we ever thought we would.

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Chapters:

00:00 Juicy Book & Going Deeper

02:10 Why She Made These Choices

03:55 Meeting Pam Stepnick

06:40 Raising Kids in the Public Eye

09:30 Fame Came Faster Than We Expected

12:45 Being a Mom While the World Watched

16:05 The Cost of Internet Fame

19:30 Divorce and Personal Responsibility

23:40 Guilt, Regret, and Forgiveness

27:10 Losing Control as a Parent

30:55 Letting Go of Your Kids

34:20 Faith When Life Falls Apart

37:50 Questioning God in Hard Seasons

41:10 God Never Left Me

44:45 Learning to Trust Again

48:30 Why She Wrote the Book

52:10 Reliving Pain Through Writing

56:00 Advice for Struggling Parents

59:40 Letting Your Kids Be Themselves

1:03:20 Faith Isn’t About Control

1:07:10 What I’d Do Differently

1:10:45 Message to Logan & Jake

1:15:00 Healing Takes Time

1:18:30 Final Thoughts on Purpose & Faith

Season Finale for 2025!!

Text Me To Perform In Your City! (602) 932-8118 Follow George! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/georgejanko Twitter: https://twitter.com/GeorgeJanko TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@georgejanko Follow Shawna! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shawnadellaricca/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@ShawnaDellaRiccaOfficial Business Inquiries Email: george@divisionmedia.coTimestamps:00:00:46 Welcome to Season 3 Finale

00:02:07 Story: Scooter Accident and Cat Rescue

00:04:24 Rescuing Two Lost Dogs

00:07:04 Why This Episode is About Shawna

00:08:10 Shawna's Early Life in France

00:10:19 Competitive Figure Skating Career

00:11:57 The Appendix Incident Story

00:15:31 Sister's Appendicitis: Rare Family Phenomenon

00:20:07 Marathon Runner Poop Story

00:23:38 Reflections on Tour and Comedy

00:24:46 First Christmas with Father

00:25:31 Father's Struggles and Family Separation

00:28:10 Journey to Forgiveness

00:29:54 Spiritual Awakening and Forgiving Father

00:32:09 Faith Journey and Healing

00:36:02 Marriage and Mutual Admiration

00:39:31 Spiritual Growth Together

00:42:40 Learning to Turn the Other Cheek

00:45:36 How We've Changed Each Other

00:47:02 Prosperity Gospel and Personal Values

00:48:52 Appreciating Simplicity and God's Provision

00:52:34 Shawna's Loud Personality

00:54:42 Unique Communication Habits

00:56:15 Fan Interactions on Tour

00:58:46 Favorite Places We've Lived

01:01:47 Marriage and Family Questions

01:03:27 Pickpocketing Story in Paris

01:06:13 Ice Skating and Ballet Background

01:09:24 New Year and Spiritual Focus

01:10:30 Facing Criticism and Following God

01:11:59 Jordan Peterson Podcast Experience

01:14:50 Watching Game of Thrones as Christians

01:17:46 Season Wrap-Up and Future Plans