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  • Navigating Chaos by Design: HR’s Role in Social Equity and Generational Wealth w/ Ashley & Desiree

    Navigating Chaos by Design: HR’s Role in Social Equity and Generational Wealth w/ Ashley & Desiree
    Oct 16 2025
    🔥 NEW EPISODE ALERT! 🔥 Welcome to another unapologetically real episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast with your hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! This time, they’re joined by Desiree Goldey and Ashley King, powerhouse co-hosts of the Talentless podcast, for a candid, thought-provoking discussion about the state of work, HR, and social justice. Get ready as they break down: - Why HR and Talent Acquisition are the true economic gatekeepers and drivers of generational wealth - The all-too-real trickle-down of politics into everyday work culture - How chaos and distraction are “by design”—and why that matters more now than ever - The everyday choices HR professionals can make to actually shift the wealth gap and promote equity - What it means to pay people what they’re worth, and why negotiating salaries can be a form of social justice It’s raw, it’s hilarious, and it speaks bold truths about being human at work in 2024. Whether you’re in HR, recruiting, or just care about how people are treated at work—this is a must-listen! 👂 Listen, learn, and walk away ready to ACT. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and drop your thoughts in the comments! #InclusiveAF #InclusiveAFPodcast #HRPodcast #SocialJustice #Equity #TalentlessPodcast #WorkplaceDiversity #PayEquity #HRCommunity #Leadership #HumanResources #Recruiting #JackyeClayton #KateeVanHorn #DesireeGoldey #AshleyKing ➡️ Want more real talk? Check out more episodes or connect with us on social @InclusiveAFpodcast! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    36 min
  • Navigating AI Adoption in HR: From Shiny Tools to Meaningful Workforce Planning w/ Sarah & Sofia

    Navigating AI Adoption in HR: From Shiny Tools to Meaningful Workforce Planning w/ Sarah & Sofia
    Oct 2 2025
    Ready to transform your HR strategy for the future of work? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, host Katee Van Horn sits down with Sophia Whelan and Sarah Smart, co-founders of Horizon Human, for an honest, insightful discussion about the evolving landscape of HR and Talent Acquisition in the age of AI. Sophia and Sarah bring their expertise from top global organizations to break down how HR can drive trust, equity, and innovation—without falling for every "shiny" tech object. Discover why human-centered design matters more than ever, how to prepare your HR teams for the AI revolution, and the real impact of new regulations across the US and EU. You’ll hear actionable strategies on: - Identifying true pain points in HR processes - Implementing AI ethically and effectively - Building trust and transparency in organizations - The crucial skills HR must prioritize for the future - Real-world examples of team-level AI innovation - Ensuring the candidate and employee experience remain front and center If you’re an HR leader, practitioner, or just passionate about creating more inclusive workplaces through technology, you won’t want to miss this conversation! Find Horizon Human here: https://www.horizonhuman.com/ 👉 Don’t forget to Like, Comment, and Subscribe for more candid conversations on inclusion, the future of work, and all things HR! #HRStrategy #FutureOfWork #AIinHR #InclusiveWorkplace #HRLeadership #TrustInOrganizations #WorkforcePlanning #HumanCentricDesign #TalentAcquisition #EmployeeExperience #DEI #HorizonHuman #InclusiveAFPocast Listen now and level up your HR game! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    50 min
  • HR Tech 2025: The Future of Retention Through Peer-Driven Recognition with Curtis Forbes

    HR Tech 2025: The Future of Retention Through Peer-Driven Recognition with Curtis Forbes
    Sep 24 2025
    🎸 How can we make EVERYONE feel seen at work—while actually driving retention and business results? On this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, Katee Van Horn sits down with the dynamic Curtis Forbes (he/him)—former jazz musician, serial entrepreneur, and founder of Mustard Hub—to jam about transforming workplace culture, recognition, and DEI through tech. Curtis shares his unique journey from the jazz stage to launching an AI-powered employee engagement platform and dives into: - What it means to truly "feel seen" at work - How peer-driven recognition (not just top-down!) drives retention—especially for underrepresented voices - Avoiding the recognition “blind spot” that leaves diverse contributions unnoticed - How predictive analytics and AI can pinpoint burnout, turnover risk, and even opportunities for growth - Success stories in education and private equity that saved $$$ and improved culture - Why building intentionally inclusive cultures is a MUST for all organizations, big or small! If you’re an HR leader, people manager, DEI advocate, or just curious about the future of recognition tech, this episode will give you tools, ideas, and inspiration for your workplace. Don’t miss Curtis’ HR Tech sneak peeks, real-world impact stats, and fun stories from the world of jazz and karaoke! 👇 Drop your experiences, questions, and favorite recognition wins in the comments! 📍 Want to demo Mustard Hub at HR Tech? Find them at booth 6414 A N M. #InclusiveAF #DEI #HRTech #EmployeeEngagement #WorkplaceCulture #Recognition #Retention #FutureOfWork #PeopleAnalytics #AI #HRTech2024 If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    40 min
  • Navigating Uncertainty: Building Inclusive Cultures and Resilient Leaders w/ Dr. Carol Parker Walsh

    Navigating Uncertainty: Building Inclusive Cultures and Resilient Leaders w/ Dr. Carol Parker Walsh
    Aug 28 2025
    Ready for a fresh, honest take on workplace inclusion and leadership? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn are joined by Dr. Carol Parker Walsh, an expert in organizational culture and psychological safety. They dive deep into what’s really going on in today’s workplaces: layoffs in DEI, the pressures of AI, burned-out leaders, and the ever-changing expectations for managers. Whether you’re unsure about your next career move, trying to foster belonging on your team, or simply want to stay ahead in a rapidly changing job market—this episode is full of practical advice and “aha!” moments. Learn how to control what you can, ask the right questions (of yourself and others), and leverage new tools like AI to build thriving workplaces. 👉 Subscribe and listen for: - Real talk about DEI layoffs and their impact on marginalized employees - How organizations are (finally) embedding inclusion into their DNA - Tips for finding your next role in the age of AI - Why psychological safety is the new must-have skill for leaders - How to hit “reset” on your career and thrive, even during uncertainty Don’t forget to check out Dr. Carol Parker Walsh’s podcast “People Forward” and connect with her for leadership development tips! #InclusiveAF #DiversityAndInclusion #WorkCulture #PsychologicalSafety #CareerDevelopment #AIWorkplace #Leadership #WorkplaceInclusion #PeopleForward #Podcast ✨ Like, comment, and share if this episode sparks new ideas for you—and let us know your top takeaway in the comments! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    52 min
  • Would You Rather: DEI Hot Takes and Real Talk With Jackye and Katee

    Would You Rather: DEI Hot Takes and Real Talk With Jackye and Katee
    Aug 21 2025
    Ready for a refreshingly REAL conversation about diversity, equity, and inclusion? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn turn up the fun with a rapid-fire “Would You Rather: DEI Edition” game! They tackle everything from DEI budgets vs. CEO support, to potlucks vs. unlimited PTO, dealing with microaggressions, navigating DEI strategy in the workplace, and even imagining Beyoncé or Lizzo at your next ERG Summit. If you need laughs, honesty, and actionable DEI insights, this episode is for YOU. Whether you’re a DEI pro, HR leader, or anyone passionate about creating more inclusive workspaces, you’ll find plenty to think about—and laugh about—here. Plus, discover why Jackye is terrified of potlucks, why Katee hates explaining "we’re like a family," and their takes on unconscious bias, pronoun etiquette, and AI in hiring. Hit LIKE if you’re ready to play along, SUBSCRIBE for more real-talk on inclusion, and COMMENT with your own “Would You Rather” answers! 🔔 Don’t miss out—join the Inclusive AF community! #DEI #Inclusivity #HRPodcast #WorkplaceCulture #Leadership #Equity #Podcast #Diversity #HumanResources #AI #WorkplaceInclusion #FunnyPodcast #Beyonce #Lizzo #PotluckFails #Teamwork Listen now and let us know your thoughts below! 👇 If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    44 min
  • Why Changing DEI Terms Won’t Change the Mission with Eric M. Bailey

    Why Changing DEI Terms Won’t Change the Mission with Eric M. Bailey
    Aug 14 2025
    Welcome to another episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast with your hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! In this insightful and candid conversation, we welcome back Eric M. Bailey—author of "The Cure for Stupidity"—to dig deep into the ever-evolving world of diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging (DEIB) at work. Things are shifting fast: DEI language is being weaponized, organizations are changing their approach (or just changing the name), and real change often feels stuck. Eric shares what he’s seeing in the field, how companies are struggling (or doubling down!) on inclusion, and why masking DEIB work with “safer” words doesn’t actually change what matters most—creating spaces where everyone feels they belong. We get real about: - Why changing terminology (like removing “diversity” or “equity”) misses the point - The cultural backlash against DEI and how it affects workplaces and nonprofits - How fear, discomfort, and misunderstood language create roadblocks (and why that discomfort is part of growth!) - The power of curiosity and active listening to actually move inclusion forward - Hilarious, relatable stories about idioms, travel, and what happens when cultural worlds collide Whether you’re leading DEIB work, feeling discouraged by social and political barriers, or simply looking to grow and understand others better, this episode offers hope, wisdom, and a gentle push to stay curious, open, and kind. ➡️ Don’t forget to subscribe, like, and drop your thoughts in the comments! Grab Eric’s book "The Cure for Stupidity": https://thecureforstupidity.com #InclusiveAF #DEI #Belonging #DiversityAndInclusion #WorkplaceCulture #EricMBailey #CureForStupidity #Leadership #Curiosity #GrowthMindset #Podcast #WorkHuman #InclusionMattersIf you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    52 min
  • Navigating the VA’s DEI Rollback and The Real Cost to Veterans with Katee & Jackye

    Navigating the VA’s DEI Rollback and The Real Cost to Veterans with Katee & Jackye
    Aug 6 2025
    Welcome to another powerful episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast with Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! 🎙️ In this episode, Jackye and Katee dive deep into the impact of the recent rollback of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives within the Department of Veterans Affairs. Discover how these changes are affecting marginalized veterans and active duty personnel, the removal of critical healthcare services (like gender-affirming care), and the troubling implications on mental health and suicide rates among our nation’s heroes. We also unpack what organizations can do right now to support team members affected by these changes—covering real, actionable strategies for HR teams and leaders, including mental health resources, employee assistance programs, and creative ways to foster community support inside and outside the workplace. Plus, Jackye and Katee get candid about the emotional toll of these developments, the importance of taking care of each other, and how small, everyday acts of kindness and advocacy matter more than ever in times like these. Whether you're an HR pro, a DEI advocate, or just someone who cares about inclusion, this episode offers tangible ideas and heartfelt guidance to help you make a difference. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and join the conversation in the comments below. How is your community supporting those most affected by these changes? 💬 #InclusiveAF #VeteransAffairs #DEI #MentalHealthMatters #TransRights #LGBTQSupport #DiversityAndInclusion #EmployeeWellbeing #SupportVeterans #CommunityCare Listen in for real talk, resourceful ideas, and a reminder that supporting each other is the most inclusive thing we can do. 💙 If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    38 min
  • What to Do When Work Feels Hopeless: Realities Facing Employees and HR Today with Katee & Jackye

    What to Do When Work Feels Hopeless: Realities Facing Employees and HR Today with Katee & Jackye
    Jul 24 2025
    Welcome to the Inclusive AF Podcast! In our most recent episode, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn get real about what's happening in workplaces and in the world right now. From HR ethics scandals and employee morale drops to the impact of DEIB cuts and the increasing role of AI at work, we dive deep into the stories making headlines—and the ones that should be. We talk about: - Why recent public scandals (think high-profile affairs at work!) shake company culture - How the rollback of DEIB efforts and politicians' choices impact employees - The truth behind return-to-office mandates, layoffs, and plummeting morale scores (like Dell’s ENPS!) - How AI is changing daily work, what we’re missing in upskilling, and tools you should actually be using - The real-life effects of legislative attacks on LGBTQ+ and other marginalized communities - Why it’s so hard to feel good about your job when leadership’s values don’t match your own - Plus: Using fear, distraction, and power plays to keep people disengaged—and what we can do to push back We keep it honest, sometimes sassy, and always focused on how inclusivity, authenticity, and transparency can help us get through this wild year. Hit like, subscribe, and be part of the conversation by commenting below. We want to know: What are you seeing at work? How are current events impacting your morale? #InclusiveAF #WorkplaceCulture #DiversityAndInclusion #DEIB #HRpodcast #EmployeeMorale #AIEthics #LGBTQ #CurrentEvents #TeamCulture #ReturnToOffice #MentalHealthAtWork #AuthenticityAtWork Don’t forget to check out our recent episode with Lindiwe for serious self-care tips! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    43 min