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  • Navigating Uncertainty: Building Inclusive Cultures and Resilient Leaders w/ Dr. Carol Parker Walsh

    Navigating Uncertainty: Building Inclusive Cultures and Resilient Leaders w/ Dr. Carol Parker Walsh
    Aug 28 2025
    Ready for a fresh, honest take on workplace inclusion and leadership? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn are joined by Dr. Carol Parker Walsh, an expert in organizational culture and psychological safety. They dive deep into what’s really going on in today’s workplaces: layoffs in DEI, the pressures of AI, burned-out leaders, and the ever-changing expectations for managers. Whether you’re unsure about your next career move, trying to foster belonging on your team, or simply want to stay ahead in a rapidly changing job market—this episode is full of practical advice and “aha!” moments. Learn how to control what you can, ask the right questions (of yourself and others), and leverage new tools like AI to build thriving workplaces. 👉 Subscribe and listen for: - Real talk about DEI layoffs and their impact on marginalized employees - How organizations are (finally) embedding inclusion into their DNA - Tips for finding your next role in the age of AI - Why psychological safety is the new must-have skill for leaders - How to hit “reset” on your career and thrive, even during uncertainty Don’t forget to check out Dr. Carol Parker Walsh’s podcast “People Forward” and connect with her for leadership development tips! #InclusiveAF #DiversityAndInclusion #WorkCulture #PsychologicalSafety #CareerDevelopment #AIWorkplace #Leadership #WorkplaceInclusion #PeopleForward #Podcast ✨ Like, comment, and share if this episode sparks new ideas for you—and let us know your top takeaway in the comments! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    52 min
  • Would You Rather: DEI Hot Takes and Real Talk With Jackye and Katee

    Would You Rather: DEI Hot Takes and Real Talk With Jackye and Katee
    Aug 21 2025
    Ready for a refreshingly REAL conversation about diversity, equity, and inclusion? In this episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn turn up the fun with a rapid-fire “Would You Rather: DEI Edition” game! They tackle everything from DEI budgets vs. CEO support, to potlucks vs. unlimited PTO, dealing with microaggressions, navigating DEI strategy in the workplace, and even imagining Beyoncé or Lizzo at your next ERG Summit. If you need laughs, honesty, and actionable DEI insights, this episode is for YOU. Whether you’re a DEI pro, HR leader, or anyone passionate about creating more inclusive workspaces, you’ll find plenty to think about—and laugh about—here. Plus, discover why Jackye is terrified of potlucks, why Katee hates explaining "we’re like a family," and their takes on unconscious bias, pronoun etiquette, and AI in hiring. Hit LIKE if you’re ready to play along, SUBSCRIBE for more real-talk on inclusion, and COMMENT with your own “Would You Rather” answers! 🔔 Don’t miss out—join the Inclusive AF community! #DEI #Inclusivity #HRPodcast #WorkplaceCulture #Leadership #Equity #Podcast #Diversity #HumanResources #AI #WorkplaceInclusion #FunnyPodcast #Beyonce #Lizzo #PotluckFails #Teamwork Listen now and let us know your thoughts below! 👇 If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    44 min
  • Why Changing DEI Terms Won’t Change the Mission with Eric M. Bailey

    Why Changing DEI Terms Won’t Change the Mission with Eric M. Bailey
    Aug 14 2025
    Welcome to another episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast with your hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! In this insightful and candid conversation, we welcome back Eric M. Bailey—author of "The Cure for Stupidity"—to dig deep into the ever-evolving world of diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging (DEIB) at work. Things are shifting fast: DEI language is being weaponized, organizations are changing their approach (or just changing the name), and real change often feels stuck. Eric shares what he’s seeing in the field, how companies are struggling (or doubling down!) on inclusion, and why masking DEIB work with “safer” words doesn’t actually change what matters most—creating spaces where everyone feels they belong. We get real about: - Why changing terminology (like removing “diversity” or “equity”) misses the point - The cultural backlash against DEI and how it affects workplaces and nonprofits - How fear, discomfort, and misunderstood language create roadblocks (and why that discomfort is part of growth!) - The power of curiosity and active listening to actually move inclusion forward - Hilarious, relatable stories about idioms, travel, and what happens when cultural worlds collide Whether you’re leading DEIB work, feeling discouraged by social and political barriers, or simply looking to grow and understand others better, this episode offers hope, wisdom, and a gentle push to stay curious, open, and kind. ➡️ Don’t forget to subscribe, like, and drop your thoughts in the comments! Grab Eric’s book "The Cure for Stupidity": https://thecureforstupidity.com #InclusiveAF #DEI #Belonging #DiversityAndInclusion #WorkplaceCulture #EricMBailey #CureForStupidity #Leadership #Curiosity #GrowthMindset #Podcast #WorkHuman #InclusionMattersIf you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    52 min
  • Navigating the VA’s DEI Rollback and The Real Cost to Veterans with Katee & Jackye

    Navigating the VA’s DEI Rollback and The Real Cost to Veterans with Katee & Jackye
    Aug 6 2025
    Welcome to another powerful episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast with Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn! 🎙️ In this episode, Jackye and Katee dive deep into the impact of the recent rollback of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives within the Department of Veterans Affairs. Discover how these changes are affecting marginalized veterans and active duty personnel, the removal of critical healthcare services (like gender-affirming care), and the troubling implications on mental health and suicide rates among our nation’s heroes. We also unpack what organizations can do right now to support team members affected by these changes—covering real, actionable strategies for HR teams and leaders, including mental health resources, employee assistance programs, and creative ways to foster community support inside and outside the workplace. Plus, Jackye and Katee get candid about the emotional toll of these developments, the importance of taking care of each other, and how small, everyday acts of kindness and advocacy matter more than ever in times like these. Whether you're an HR pro, a DEI advocate, or just someone who cares about inclusion, this episode offers tangible ideas and heartfelt guidance to help you make a difference. Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and join the conversation in the comments below. How is your community supporting those most affected by these changes? 💬 #InclusiveAF #VeteransAffairs #DEI #MentalHealthMatters #TransRights #LGBTQSupport #DiversityAndInclusion #EmployeeWellbeing #SupportVeterans #CommunityCare Listen in for real talk, resourceful ideas, and a reminder that supporting each other is the most inclusive thing we can do. 💙 If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    38 min
  • What to Do When Work Feels Hopeless: Realities Facing Employees and HR Today with Katee & Jackye

    What to Do When Work Feels Hopeless: Realities Facing Employees and HR Today with Katee & Jackye
    Jul 24 2025
    Welcome to the Inclusive AF Podcast! In our most recent episode, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn get real about what's happening in workplaces and in the world right now. From HR ethics scandals and employee morale drops to the impact of DEIB cuts and the increasing role of AI at work, we dive deep into the stories making headlines—and the ones that should be. We talk about: - Why recent public scandals (think high-profile affairs at work!) shake company culture - How the rollback of DEIB efforts and politicians' choices impact employees - The truth behind return-to-office mandates, layoffs, and plummeting morale scores (like Dell’s ENPS!) - How AI is changing daily work, what we’re missing in upskilling, and tools you should actually be using - The real-life effects of legislative attacks on LGBTQ+ and other marginalized communities - Why it’s so hard to feel good about your job when leadership’s values don’t match your own - Plus: Using fear, distraction, and power plays to keep people disengaged—and what we can do to push back We keep it honest, sometimes sassy, and always focused on how inclusivity, authenticity, and transparency can help us get through this wild year. Hit like, subscribe, and be part of the conversation by commenting below. We want to know: What are you seeing at work? How are current events impacting your morale? #InclusiveAF #WorkplaceCulture #DiversityAndInclusion #DEIB #HRpodcast #EmployeeMorale #AIEthics #LGBTQ #CurrentEvents #TeamCulture #ReturnToOffice #MentalHealthAtWork #AuthenticityAtWork Don’t forget to check out our recent episode with Lindiwe for serious self-care tips! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    43 min
  • From Burnout to Boundaries: Protecting Your Space in Challenging Times with Lindiwe Davis

    From Burnout to Boundaries: Protecting Your Space in Challenging Times with Lindiwe Davis
    Jul 17 2025
    Ready for some real talk on navigating job pivots, protecting your mental health, and finding your purpose—especially when it feels like the world is upside down? Join hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton for another empowering episode of The Inclusive AF Podcast! 🎙️ This week, returning guest Lindiwe Davis (aka The Couch Coach) is back to dish on: - How to stay the course in your career—even when the path twists and turns - Setting boundaries to protect your energy (and why that’s 100% OK!) - Embracing discomfort vs. struggling and the secret to smart pivots - The power of community, courage, and giving yourself permission to just be - Dealing with imposter syndrome and why it means you’re already doing the thing Plus, get some laughs as the hosts talk dessert fixes, Love Island, and the fine line between foolishness, shenanigans, and insanity (ah, the workplace!). If you’re looking for inspiration, practical coaching advice, and authenticity from people who have been through it (and survived to tell the tale), this episode is for you. Don’t forget to subscribe, like, and drop your thoughts in the comments—we want to hear YOUR story, too! #InclusiveAF #Podcast #CareerGrowth #MentalHealthMatters #StayTheCourse #JobPivot #Coaching #Boundaries #ImposterSyndrome #WomenInPodcasting #DiversityAndInclusion #RealTalk #Community Tune in, get inspired, and remember: the price is the price—so make it count for you. 👏 If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    52 min
  • HR’s Wake Up Call: Auditing AI Tools After the Workday Bias Case with Katee & Jackye - Episode 155

    HR’s Wake Up Call: Auditing AI Tools After the Workday Bias Case with Katee & Jackye - Episode 155
    Jul 11 2025
    🎙️ Welcome to The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this must-listen episode, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn dive into one of the hottest and most pressing topics in HR: AI Bias in Recruiting—especially focusing on the landmark Mobley vs. Workday lawsuit. With over 1.1 BILLION applications potentially impacted, what does this mean for your organization and your hiring practices? We break down: - The real risks of bias in AI-powered ATS systems like Workday🧐 - What the Workday lawsuit means for companies (hint: it’s not just about tech, it’s about accountability!) - The practical steps every HR professional and recruiter needs to take NOW to audit and protect their hiring funnel - Why relying solely on AI isn’t enough and how YOU hold the responsibility - The right questions to ask your vendors to avoid being at the center of the next big discrimination case Plus, we keep it real, weaving in candid stories from our careers, a few laughs about 90s Sun-In hair disasters, and our hot takes on the future of compliance. Whether you're in HR, recruiting, or leadership, you can't afford to miss these insights on protecting your company, candidates, and reputation in the age of AI. 👉 Don’t forget to subscribe, like, and share! And keep your eyes peeled for our upcoming Inclusive AF swag store—announced soon! #AIInRecruiting #HRTech #WorkdayLawsuit #InclusiveAF #DiversityHiring #AIBias #HRCompliance #Recruiting #DEI #HumanResources #ATS #WorkplaceEquity #AIAccountability Listen NOW and get ahead of what's coming for HR and recruiting leaders everywhere! 💪 Got questions, comments, or want to share your own story? Drop a comment below—we LOVE hearing from our Inclusive AF family! ATS Vendor Evaluation Questions – Bias Detection & DEIB Alignment Bias Detection & Mitigation - How does your system detect or flag potential bias in candidate screening or selection? - Do you conduct regular audits (internal or third-party) to assess disparate impact in hiring outcomes? - Can you share the results of your most recent bias audit or fairness analysis? - How do you monitor for demographic drop-off or funnel imbalances (e.g., by race, gender, age, disability)? - Do you offer real-time alerts or bias flags during recruiter or hiring manager interactions? Transparency & Explainability - Can your algorithmic decisioning or scoring be explained to end users (e.g., recruiters, candidates)? - Do you provide visibility into how candidate matches, rankings, or scores are calculated? - How can recruiters override or contest algorithmic suggestions? Anonymity & Data Privacy - Does your platform offer blind screening (e.g., redacting names, photos, graduation dates)? - How do you protect candidate PII (personally identifiable information) throughout the hiring process? - Can recruiters be restricted from seeing demographic details to reduce unconscious bias? Analytics & Reporting - What diversity analytics or dashboards do you offer for tracking pipeline health and equity? - Can we track pass-through rates by demographic category across stages (e.g., applied → screened → hired)? - Do you offer any benchmarking to compare our data against industry or peer norms? Compliance & Regulation - How do you support compliance with local and global AI/HR laws (e.g., EEOC guidance, NYC Local Law 144, EU AI Act)? - Do you provide the required disclosures and opt-outs for jurisdictions with AI bias laws? - How do you stay current on regulatory changes impacting algorithmic hiring tools? Commitment to DEIB - How does your tool support our DEIB goals beyond just compliance (e.g., inclusive language checkers, diverse sourcing tools)? - Do you work with DEIB consultants, advisory boards, or audit partners to review your tech? - What ongoing improvements are planned to ensure fairness and accessibility in your platform?
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    37 min
  • Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Rebecca Eldredge - Episode 154

    Getting Inclusive AF with Dr. Rebecca Eldredge - Episode 154
    Jun 16 2025
    Ready to explore what real inclusion and well-being look like—especially for those doing the heavy lifting on the frontlines of change? On this episode of the Inclusive AF Podcast, hosts Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton are joined by Dr. Rebecca Eldridge, a licensed psychologist with 20+ years of expertise in multicultural issues and organizational well-being. Together, they dig into the often-overlooked toll of fighting for equity (especially for Black and Brown women), intergenerational trauma, and why self-care isn’t just a buzzword—it’s essential for sustainable change. You’ll hear actionable advice for leaders navigating tough topics like global conflict at work, the importance of psychological safety, and why “finding your calm” matters (even if it feels uncomfortable or impossible). Plus, there’s real talk about burnout, what organizations get wrong about DEI, and how small changes can have big impact. If you care about inclusion, employee wellness, or the “real work” of creating change—this episode is both validating and a must-listen. 🔗 Listen, learn, and join the conversation! #InclusiveAF #DEI #WorkplaceWellbeing #WomenInLeadership #PsychologicalSafety #Burnout #SelfCare #SocialJustice #Leadership #Podcast #InclusionMatters #MentalHealthAtWork 👇 Drop your thoughts in the comments! How does your workplace support (or NOT support) well-being for DEI leaders and changemakers? If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF
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    52 min