Timestamps:

00:21 - Introduction & Welcome

01:45 - The Three Ring Circus: Copper, Iron, and Oxygen

02:09 - Why We Get Sick: One Root Cause?

03:55 - The Magnesium Journey

05:01 - Discovering Copper’s Role

05:44 - Iron Overload: The Hidden Epidemic

07:18 - The Constantine Adrakatas Case

10:27 - Medical Bias Against Copper

13:27 - The Simultaneous Equation: Lower Iron, Raise Copper

14:52 - Stress, Modern Life, and Early Imbalance

17:21 - Iron in Infant Formula & Long-Term Effects

26:15 - The Anemia Myth: Why Low Ferritin Isn’t Always Low Iron

28:27 - The Role of Copper in Iron Recycling

31:56 - Practical Steps: Food Choices & The Root Cause Protocol

35:42 - Where to Find Copper in Food

36:20 - Supplements, Cod Liver Oil, and Navigating Misinformation

41:52 - The Internet, AI, and Health Misinformation

51:41 - The Impact of Stress on Iron Metabolism

58:09 - Final Thoughts & Where to Learn More

Join Jenn Payeur and renowned mineral researcher Morley Robbins for a deep-dive conversation that challenges everything you thought you knew about iron, copper, and your health.

In this eye-opening episode, Morley Robbins (aka "The Magnesium Man" and founder of the Root Cause Protocol) reveals why iron overload—not deficiency—is at the root of many modern health issues, and how copper is the missing key to restoring balance and energy. Discover the "three ring circus" of copper, iron, and oxygen, and learn how chronic stress, misinformation, and modern diets have led to widespread mineral imbalances.

Topics covered include:

• The real reason behind the iron overload epidemic
• Why most people diagnosed as "anemic" may actually have hidden iron toxicity
• The critical role of copper in energy production and iron recycling
• How stress disrupts mineral balance and leads to chronic illness
• Practical steps to re-balance your minerals through food, supplements, and lifestyle
• The dangers of blindly following mainstream health narratives and internet advice
• How to become more curious, discerning, and empowered in your health journey

Whether you're struggling with fatigue, chronic illness, or just want to optimize your well-being, this conversation will give you the tools and insights to take control of your health.

🔗 Learn more about Morley Robbins and the Root Cause Protocol: https://therootcauseprotocol.com

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I'm Jennifer Payeur, the host of The Wellness Sherpa as well as the CEO and Founder of Nature Provides. I was diagnosed with cancer in 2015 which brought me the gift of deeply reconnecting with myself and nature, re-discovering the healing power of plants. In 2017, I left my 29 year career in financial services to become a teacher and mentor, traveling around the world to educate...