Pierre Rochard, VP of Research at Riot Platforms and longtime Bitcoin advocate, joins to explain why Bitcoin’s rise is transforming not only markets but the very foundation of the financial system. From the mechanics of speculative attacks to the rise of Bitcoin treasury companies, Pierre reveals how Wall Street adoption, government policy, and sound money principles are colliding to reshape the global order. In this conversation, we explore why the classic 4-year Bitcoin cycle is breaking down, how financialization and leverage are changing the rules of the game, and why Bitcoin’s fundamentals still point to explosive upside. Pierre unpacks the growing role of ETFs, corporate treasuries, and multi-sig custody, while also warning of the political battles ahead—from potential 6102-style risks to the importance of lobbying for Bitcoin’s future. He also dives into how inheritance flows, mining economics, and U.S. fiscal policy will decide who thrives in the next era of Bitcoin adoption—and what it all means for the freedom to control your own money.

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The crash everyone’s talking about right now will be worse than 2008… but not in the way almost everyone thinks it’s going to happen. See, the media is bracing you for another housing collapse or a stock market wipeout — but that’s not the real danger. This time, the bubble isn’t in real estate or banks… It’s in a completely different sector that no one is watching — and when it pops, the crash effects will be nothing like what most people are preparing for.

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Jamie Coutts, Chief Crypto Analyst at Real Vision, joins to break down why Bitcoin’s current bull market looks nothing like the cycles of the past — and what that means for investors navigating the storm ahead. From shifting liquidity regimes to the rise of Bitcoin treasury companies, Jamie reveals how debt, deficits, and central bank policy are reshaping crypto’s place in the global financial system. In this conversation, we dig into why the classic 4-year cycle is breaking down, how fiscal dominance is rewriting the rules of markets, and why Bitcoin’s next explosive volatility may decide the winners and losers of the treasury “arms race.” Jamie also explains where Ethereum and other large-cap cryptos fit into this moment, and what the battle between Trump, Powell, and global liquidity means for the future of money.

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