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The Meg and Amy Show

The Meg and Amy Show

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 Join best friends Meg Bear and Amy Wilson on The Meg and Amy Show – a podcast for big-picture thinkers who are ready to challenge the status quo. As former tech executives and seasoned business leaders, Meg and Amy have spent decades leading through change. Now, they’re joining forces to break down the trends they’ve lived and helped shape.All rights reserved by WRKdefined Gestion et leadership Économie
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  • Episode 22 | Dr. Kirstin Ferguson on The Curse of Expertise in the AI Age

    Episode 22 | Dr. Kirstin Ferguson on The Curse of Expertise in the AI Age
    Oct 17 2025
    🚀 Why "I Don't Know Yet" Is the Most Valuable Leadership Skill in the AI Age: Dr. Kirstin Ferguson reveals how expertise becomes your biggest enemy and why intellectual humility beats certainty every time. ⏰ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introduction & Antarctica Adventures 02:06 Welcome to Dr. Kirstin Ferguson 04:38 Why Travel Reduces Blindspots 05:49 The UK Post Office Scandal: When "The Computer Is Always Right" 08:44 How Success Becomes the Enemy of Adaptation 10:50 The Power & Authority Problem: Why People Won't Tell You You're Wrong 12:45 Why Leaders Are Trained to Have All the Answers (And Why It's Wrong) 20:13 Meg's SuccessFactors Story: Leading Through "I Don't Know" 26:32 What If the Post Office Had Been Curious Instead of Certain? 35:48 Meg's Oracle Epiphany: When Everyone's Pretending to Know 38:11 Reading the Room: When NOT to Say "I Don't Know Yet" 46:33 Kirstin's Work-From-Home Pivot: How to Change Your Mind Publicly 49:06 The Career Advice Blindspot: Why Parents Give Terrible Job Advice 51:50 The Three Practices: Be Honest, Be Curious, Be Flexible 53:22 Leadership Corner: Should You Pursue Leadership During Uncertain Times? 🔑 KEY INSIGHTS: - The "curse of expertise": Why being right makes you worse at knowing when to doubt yourself - How 900+ innocent people were prosecuted due to blind faith in technology - Why "I don't know yet" builds more trust than false certainty - The art of reading the room while admitting uncertainty - How to unlearn outdated expertise for the AI age 📚 RESOURCES: Blindspotting: How to See What Others Miss | https://amazn.so/97uYE8w Head & Heart | https://amazn.so/oOLPfL2 Dr. Kirstin Ferguson's weekly column "Got a Minute?" - Sydney Morning Herald/The Age How Travel Rewires Your Brain | https://superage.com/one-creativity-habit-nobel-scientists-swear-by/ SAP SuccessFactors Migration | https://news.sap.com/2023/02/sap-successfactors-next-generation-cloud-delivery/ Think Again, Adam Grant | https://amazn.so/wglEb5N **🔗 CONNECT:** Kirstin's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirstinferguson/ Kirstin's Website: https://www.kirstinferguson.com/ Leadership Questions: amywilsonadvisor@gmail.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/megandamyshow/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-meg-amy-show #Blindspotting #Leadership #AI #IntellectualHumility #BusinessTransformation #MegAndAmyShow
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    1 h et 2 min
  • Episode 21 | Female Leadership in a World Built for Men

    Episode 21 | Female Leadership in a World Built for Men
    Oct 10 2025
    🚀 BREAKING OUT OF THE DEFAULT MALE WORLD: Meg and Amy reveal the hidden challenges of female leadership in a world designed by and for men. Learn how to navigate bias, own your power, and redefine what leadership looks like in the AI era in this raw and empowering conversation. ⏰ TIMESTAMPS: 00:00 Introduction to Female Leadership Challenges 05:55 WNBA Success and Equal Pay Movement 07:06 Fiji Simo's Historic OpenAI Appointment 08:09 AI Bias: ChatGPT Recommends Lower Salaries for Women 14:17 Invisible Women: The Default Male Design Problem 18:46 Power vs. Pleasant Language in Performance Reviews 24:42 Media Bias: Men Talk Money, Women Talk Culture 30:05 When Did You First Notice You Were "Other"? 33:49 From Mentee to Threat: How Power Changes Everything 42:42 "Everyone's Full of Shit" - Overcoming Imposter Syndrome 46:09 Hope for the Future: AI Era Leadership 48:50 Leadership Corner: New Mom Executive Concerns 🔑 KEY INSIGHTS: - Why AI systems perpetuate gender bias by recommending lower salaries for women - The "default male" problem affects everything from T-shirts to car safety systems - How women are described as "pleasant" while men get "powerful" language in reviews - The shift from welcomed mentee to perceived threat as women gain real power - Why balancing confidence with warmth is a uniquely female leadership challenge 📚 RESOURCES: - Kieran Snyder's LinkedIn Post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kieran-snyder_35-of-people-in-the-nerd-processor-survey-activity-7358858695188901888-Yd6-?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAB5eYzoBji0hRFR25InbUtOYcrXhHjARevM - Surface Fairness, Deep Bias: A Comparative Study of Bias in Language Models: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.10491 - Invisible Women by Caroline Criado Perez: https://amazn.so/Ie3mLd9 - Freakonomics: https://amazn.so/NeeOmhN - Likeable Badass by Alison Fragale: https://amazn.so/o1suXHW - Kieran's Interview Study: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/kieran-snyder_35-of-people-in-the-nerd-processor-survey-activity-7358858695188901888-Yd6-/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAAAVeN8BrXyqZRtd37eT9lCYDRykSAdLh5A - Jingjin Liu's Post on Diary of a CEO: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/jingjin-liu_ive-been-a-long-time-admirer-of-diary-activity-7341970108489093121-nlu_?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAAB5eYzoBji0hRFR25InbUtOYcrXhHjARevM - Meg's Podcast with Charlotte Otter: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6jTHKO5ieg1PPErWb6BndQ - Amy's Podcast with Charlotte Otter: https://open.spotify.com/episode/164CQ4o14jqgRPWB40cKAC?si=Ytj7HsCeRQG8xGzhcUHT3ghttps://open.spotify.com/episode/164CQ4o14jqgRPWB40cKAC?si=Ytj7HsCeRQG8xGzhcUHT3g - Becoming by Michelle Obama: https://amazn.so/baf6fwF - The Insight Loop Newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7357876676623544322 **🔗 CONNECT:** Leadership Questions: amywilsonadvisor@gmail.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/megandamyshow/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-meg-amy-show #FemaleLeadership #WomenInTech #AIBias #LeadershipDevelopment #MegAndAmyShow
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    56 min
  • Episode 20 | Angela Le Mathon: Speaking the Language of Business – From Skills to AI ROI

    Episode 20 | Angela Le Mathon: Speaking the Language of Business – From Skills to AI ROI
    Oct 3 2025
    Angela Le Mathon reveals how HR leaders can move beyond the "skills data trap" to drive real business outcomes with AI. Learn how to speak the language of business, avoid the employee experience trap, and design AI-native organizations in this thought-provoking conversation on business transformation and leadership. **🔑 KEY INSIGHTS:** Skills data works for talent marketplaces but doesn't drive business outcomes HR must shift from talking about programs and platforms to speaking outcomes language Treat AI as experimental technology and focus on safe use cases first Employee experience initiatives need specific productivity unlocks, not general improvements Future organizations will be designed AI-native from the ground up **⏰ TIMESTAMPS:** 00:00 Introduction to Angela Le Mathon 02:05 Culture shock: Coming back to America 03:57 Angela's journey into analytics 07:29 Evolution from "what's happening" to "what's possible" 15:28 Building cross-functional analytics teams 16:50 Why everyone needs to become a unicorn 19:53 The analytics evolution moment 23:14 AI advisory tips for CHROs 26:31 The employee experience trap 42:46 AI native org design and workforce planning 45:30 Speaking the language of business 47:00 The skills data reality check 49:11 Final advice: Embrace experimentation 50:23 Leadership Corner: Getting senior colleagues to listen **📚 RESOURCES:** Angela's Guest Lecture at Stanford: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7358923352830296065/ Everything is Figureoutable: https://amazn.so/mOs1fUJ Range: https://amazn.so/iUn324r **🔗 CONNECT:** Angela: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lemathon/ Leadership Questions: amywilsonadvisor@gmail.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/megandamyshow/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-meg-amy-show #AILeadership #PeopleAnalytics #SkillsData #BusinessTransformation #HRStrategy #MegAndAmyShow
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    1 h
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