On this episode of The Move 24/7, Britt and Bre sit down with powerhouse manager Joc The Manager (OTB FastLane, Exotic Pop, Doughboy Sauce, to talk real-life music business, womanhood in a male-dominated industry, and why you should never mix “manager” with “situationship.”

From leaving a healthcare administration career she hated to becoming the engine behind artists like OTB Fastlane, Doughboy Sauce, Rock Solid Teezy, Looney, and brands like Exotic Pop and The Promenade, Joc breaks down how she built her lane one calculated move at a time. She shares how classical piano, entrepreneurship from her dad’s cleaners and beauty supply, and mentorship from industry vet Lavish Ways shaped the way she moves today.

The crew dives into:

• What it’s really like being a woman manager in a male-dominated space and constantly being mistaken for a groupie until the room realizes she’s the boss.
• The blurred line between business and bedroom through a wild anonymous letter from an artist sleeping with his manager—now she wants 50/50 on everything. Joc breaks down when 50/50 makes sense, when you need a lawyer, and why contracts are non-negotiable.
• Her own “never again” story about mixing business with pleasure (yes, including the infamous balcony moment and the group chat receipts 😭).
• Artist development 101: finding your sound with real producers instead of YouTube beats, locking in your image, knowing your target audience, and why most artists need PR and marketing before they ever ask for a manager.
• Why she says “let your manager find you,” and how Houston’s music scene suffers more from a lack of business structure than a lack of talent.
• Joc’s next chapter: her $2M distribution acquisition, building The Potency Firm, and training the next generation of managers so she can shift into bigger business, catalog acquisitions, and putting real money back into the city.

Sprinkled in is plenty of girl talk, zodiac slander (Aquarius, Cancer, Virgo… nobody is safe), and a quick fantasy lineup of Texas artists she’d put on a must-see show.

If you’re an artist praying for a manager, a woman trying to navigate male-dominated rooms, or somebody who’s ever been in a situationship with a “business partner”—this one is a free masterclass and a reality check in one.