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  • The next frontier for real assets: Why multi-product managers have a head start to 2030
    Nov 17 2025

    This episode is sponsored by Manulife

    As new industries evolve and accelerate, new opportunities are constantly arising for institutional investors in the private real assets space.

    It isn’t always easy, however, for managers to grasp hold of these opportunities. As assets like data centers have become investable in recent years, managers have found that they need to devote time and effort to understand the dynamics around these unfamiliar assets. And the private markets industry has occasionally been guilty of obsessing over which labels to apply to emerging assets.

    This is the first episode of our Private Markets 2030 podcast miniseries, part of PEI Group’s wider initiative exploring how private markets are evolving as we enter the decade’s second half. Across the series, we unpack how managers can adapt, attract capital and deliver performance in an increasingly complex market.

    Joining us are three guests from Manulife: Erin Patterson, global co-head of research and strategy; Maggie Coleman, the firm’s chief investment officer for real estate equity and co-head of global portfolio management; and John Anderson, global head of corporate finance and infrastructure. They discuss how multi-product managers have an advantage in expanding into new opportunity sets and argue that a multi-product approach offers obvious benefits around diversification, while allowing managers the flexibility to pivot into new opportunity sets.

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    31 min
  • 'It’s a really solid asset class': Private capital warms to affordable housing
    Nov 14 2025

    A recurring theme in real estate private equity this year has been the proliferation of capital into so-called “niche” or alternative property types beyond the traditionally institutionalized sectors such as office, retail, industrial, multifamily residential or hotels.

    But while much attention has been paid to the emergence of segments including data centers, student accommodations or outdoor storage, another area of rising conviction among both institutional investors and their asset managers is affordable housing – particularly in the US, where mounting supply shortages have evolved into what most observers describe as a crisis.

    Increasingly, private market investors want to be a part of the solution, and a growing cohort of asset managers are devising ways to address the problem while also creating strong opportunities for risk-adjusted returns.

    On this episode, co-host Greg Dool is joined by PERE Credit editor Samantha Rowan and PERE Deals editor Guelda Voien for a look at why affordable housing is increasingly viewed as a strong match for institutional investment portfolios and the managers hoping to capture those allocations. We also hear from Alicia Glen, co-founder of New York-based private equity firm MSquared, which is currently raising its second impact-focused essential housing fund, in conversation with PERE Podcast co-host McKenna Leavens.

    Further reading:

    • PERE: MSquared’s Glen: ‘We need to do things differently’ in affordable housing
    • PERE: CIM Group holds first close on debut fund focused on US affordability crisis
    • PERE Credit: Mamdani win underscores need for affordable, middle-income housing
    • National Association of Realtors: First-time home buyer share falls to historic low of 21%, median age rises to 40
    • American South Capital Partners announces $60 million first close of its third affordable housing fund
    • Federal Reserve Bank of New York: 2025 Case Study on Managers of Multifamily Affordable Housing Private Investment Vehicles
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    28 min
  • PERE America 2025: 'Everyone will have an opportunity to outperform'
    Nov 7 2025

    In this episode, host McKenna Leavens sits down with Jonathan Brasse, PERE editor-in-chief, and Evelyn Lee, PERE editor, to unpack the optimism circulating at PERE Network’s 20th annual America Forum, held earlier this week in New York City. The flagship event brought together a record-breaking number of industry leaders and investors across the private real estate landscape.

    “Palpable optimism” is the way Brasse described the feeling in the air. Listen as he relays the growing confidence among participants that the worst of the capital markets dislocation is over. The podcast reflects on key themes contributing to a positive mood, including the expectation of a rebound in transaction activity and the growing prevalence of core risk-return strategies. Development is also becoming a talking point.

    Listeners will also hear from Jesse Hom, chief investment officer of real assets and head of real estate credit at Blue Owl, who joined a panel discussing signs of a strong recovery in the market.

    But there were also notable degrees of skepticism, as Lee explains. Despite improving supply-demand dynamics, there are still uncertainties around long-term interest rates, rising inflation and government deficits, leading some to feel the industry is not yet out of the woods.

    Read also: PSP, La Caisse explore recalibration of property portfolios

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    16 min
  • The '$1 trillion club': Evolving capital markets create a higher tier of managers
    Oct 31 2025

    In this episode, host Greg Dool sits down with Jonathan Brasse, PERE's real estate editor-in-chief, for a deep dive into one of the biggest forces transforming the private markets landscape: manager consolidation.

    The discussion explores why private market managers across asset classes are acquiring or partnering with other businesses in a bid to scale up, and what that means for investors and the markets they serve. The conversation hinges on the release of PEI Group's Private Markets 2030, a series that takes a look at the major forces shaping the alternative assets industry.

    Listen as Dool and Brasse unpack the shifts fuelling consolidation. Among increasing demands for diversification and transparency, they focus on a major change in the sources of capital that support managers. For three decades, private markets have been fuelled by institutional investors. But as these institutions reach target allocations, two other sources of capital – private wealth and insurance capital – have emerged, with both the appetite for private market exposure and the means to access it.

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    18 min
  • Understanding synthetic risk transfers: The financial tool reshaping real estate lending
    Oct 28 2025

    In this special episode, the team explores how synthetic risk transfers, a financial tool used by banks to help them free up capacity for more lending, are growing in real estate.

    Join Real Estate Capital Europe editor Daniel Cunningham and deputy editor Lucy Scott as they discuss why an increasing number of real estate lenders – and real estate managers – are engaging in SRT trades, a topic also explored in REC Europe's deep dive here.

    This episode comes as Aareal Bank confirms its first SRT trade, linked to a €2 billion portfolio of performing European commercial real estate loans.

    Also read:

    • Real Estate Capital Europe: Deep dive: How synthetic risk transfers are bringing banks and non-banks together
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    21 min
  • Is real estate’s allocation slide a brief dip or a sign of a larger rebalancing?
    Oct 24 2025

    A multi-year slowdown in private real estate has prompted institutional investors to cut their average target allocation to the asset class for the first time in more than a decade. Is it merely a short-term setback for property fund managers, or a sign of a broader shift within institutional portfolios?

    The historic reversal reported by Hodes Weill & Associates this week comes after the capital advisory firm had found a steady increase in average target allocations since 2013, when it began tracking them with an annual survey in partnership with Cornell University’s Baker Program in Real Estate. But those gains plateaued starting in 2022, and this year’s 10-basis-point dip suggests that the market effects of high interest rates, geopolitical concerns and the rise of other attractive alternative asset classes are far from over.

    In this episode, PERE senior reporter Harrison Connery joins host Greg Dool to break down this year’s Allocations Monitor survey results, and contextualize the main takeaways. Hodes Weill co-founder Douglas Weill also shares his perspective on the results and what they might mean for private real estate fundraising moving forward.

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    19 min
  • Real estate credit finds its footing as markets recalibrate
    Oct 21 2025

    This episode is sponsored by Bravo Capital

    The lending landscape is shifting, and private credit is taking center stage. In this episode, Bravo Capital founder and CEO Aaron Krawitz discusses how his firm is navigating a market defined by bank pullbacks, rising regulation and persistent demand for rental housing.

    Krawitz outlines where opportunities are emerging: ground-up multifamily construction, healthcare and skilled nursing facilities, and HUD-backed permanent financing. As traditional lenders retrench, these areas are seeing renewed activity from private lenders that can move quickly and tailor structures to complex projects.

    He also reflects on how Bravo has adapted since launching at the height of the pandemic, emphasizing the importance of a disciplined approach and alignment with investors through shifting market conditions. That ethos, he says, has supported a focus on quality borrowers, measured construction exposure and long-term partnerships over loan volume metrics.

    Across development financing, bridge loans and HUD takeouts, Bravo sees a broader trend in real estate credit: private lenders are leading the way with financings, even amid market uncertainty.

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    24 min
  • 'Fox in the henhouse': Blackstone’s UK REIT push takes a surprising turn
    Oct 17 2025

    Blackstone emerged last month as the winner of a year-long takeover battle for UK industrial landlord Warehouse REIT after knocking out rival suitor Tritax Big Box with a £489 million ($656 million; €562 million) bid. But as it turns out, that was not the end of the Blackstone-Tritax saga.

    In a surprise twist this week, the rivals became partners when Blackstone announced an agreement to sell a £1 billion UK logistics portfolio to Tritax, just weeks after Tritax bowed out of its pursuit of Warehouse REIT. For an added level of intrigue, the deal reportedly involves both cash and Tritax stock, meaning Blackstone will hold an 8.6 percent stake in Tritax Big Box after the deal.

    What should the industry make of this sequence of events, and what does it suggest about US private real estate managers’ ongoing push into the UK-listed property market?

    This episode breaks it all down. Listen as host Greg Dool gets the latest from PERE Deals reporter Sarah Marx, who has covered the saga’s every turn, and PEI real estate editor-in-chief Jonathan Brasse, who offers his perspective on the affair and how it compares to a similar dalliance between Brookfield Asset Management and UK REIT Segro last year.

    Later in the episode, Marx sits down with Matthew Norris, head of real estate securities at London-based manager and REIT investor Gravis Capital, for his take on the story and the growing number of takeover battles between private equity and publicly listed REITs.

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    21 min