Épisodes

  • 'Ongoing stagnation': Real estate fundraising stays muted in H1
    Jul 11 2025

    On its face, PERE’s just-released first-half fundraising report brings welcome news to the private real estate sector, revealing that capital commitments to the asset class jumped 16 percent from H1 2024. After a multi-year slowdown, is fundraising ramping up again? Or is there more to the story?

    In this episode, join host Greg Dool, PERE editor Evelyn Lee and PERE Asia-Pacific reporter Christie Ou as we dive into the results – including a pair of Blackstone mega-funds and bright spots for both data centers and Asia-focused vehicles – and what they suggest about investors’ evolving view of the asset class.

    Listen for updates on the managers that closed on the largest capital hauls during the first half of 2025, the investors that backed them, headwinds for industrial vehicles and the rise of specialist funds targeting other emergent sectors. The team looks ahead at the next group of funds headed for a final close in the coming months, including massive vehicles being raised by Brookfield and Starwood Capital Group, among others.

    Read the full H1 fundraising report here.

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    19 min
  • Madison Realty Capital’s skyline-changing deals
    Jul 9 2025

    Madison Realty Capital, one of the first real estate private credit funds, has been originating a series of loans that are changing city skylines.

    The most recent of these were in New York. In mid-May, the company funded a $720 million loan to finance the conversion of the former Pfizer headquarters into a 1,600-unit apartment complex. And earlier this month, a joint venture between Madison Realty and a Kushner Companies joint venture funded a $525 million construction loan for the development of Court LIC, a planned 55-story condo in New York's Long Island City submarket.

    But loans like these are only a part of Madison Realty Capital’s activity.

    In this episode, Josh Zegen, co-founder of the New York-based company, discusses the different ways Madison Realty Capital participates in commercial real estate deals, how that has expanded since its inception in 2004, and where the firm is allocating capital from its latest real estate private equity fund.

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    8 min
  • An inside look at PERE’s 100 Most Influential list
    Jul 3 2025

    Real estate is a people business, and this month, PERE is highlighting those that have made their mark on the asset class. On this episode, we take a deep dive into PERE’s second-ever Most Influential list, ranking the individuals who've made the biggest impact on private real estate over the 10-year period since we last compiled such a list in 2015.

    Numerous forces have reshaped the industry during the intervening decade – a global pandemic, a sector reshuffling, the proliferation of debt funds and the emergence of numerous new sources of capital – and the ranking reflects each of these trends in different ways.

    Listen as host Greg Dool sits down with PEI Group’s real estate editor-in-chief Jonathan Brasse, PERE editor Evelyn Lee and PERE Credit editor Samantha Rowan for a breakdown of the key takeaways, as well as an inside look at the process behind the list and what it says about real estate’s evolution as an asset class.

    Enjoy the rest of our PERE 20th anniversary content here.

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    19 min
  • PIMCO’s Trausch: 'Uncertainty is now structural' in real estate
    Jul 1 2025

    Is “defense” the next major theme in private real estate? Are sector-based investment strategies outdated in the current market cycle? How can allocators and their asset managers act with conviction in an era of deglobalization, trade tension, inflation, recession risks and interest rate volatility?

    In this episode, PEI real estate editor-in-chief Jonathan Brasse speaks with François Trausch, chief executive and CIO of PIMCO Prime Real Estate, to discuss these questions and more in an exclusive breakdown of the Newport Beach, California-based manager’s latest annual real estate market outlook.

    Listen as Brasse and Trausch discuss real estate’s evolving place in investors’ portfolios, focusing on resiliency across property sectors, why traditional investment strategies need to be reconsidered at a time of “structural” uncertainty, and much more.

    For more, read our coverage of PIMCO’s latest real estate outlook and tune into last week’s episode.

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    33 min
  • Will European defense spending provide a boost for real estate?
    Jun 27 2025

    The fraught macroeconomic climate and its impact on property markets has been a regular topic of The PERE Podcast as investors allocate capital in a deglobalizing world. This week the spotlight is on geopolitics, as escalation in the Middle East and rising defense budgets in Europe portend significant consequences for global property markets.

    On this week’s episode, host Greg Dool sits down with PEI’s real estate editor-in-chief Jonathan Brasse, PERE Deals reporter Sarah Marx and Real Estate Capital Europe deputy editor Lucy Scott for a look at how private real estate investors and managers are adapting. We also feature parts of an exclusive interview with François Trausch, chief executive of PIMCO Prime Real Estate, who shares context around the Newport Beach, California-based asset manager's latest white paper Bend, Not Break: Investing in Real Estate Amid Economic Uncertainty.

    What might rising tension mean for inbound investment in the Middle East? Will increased spending on defense and infrastructure, as pledged by NATO members this week, create opportunities for fund managers? Tune in for what we are hearing this week from market participants as the situation unfolds.

    Listen above and tune in next week for the full interview with Trausch.

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    27 min
  • Market weighs optimism against frustration at PERE Europe
    Jun 20 2025

    In this episode, we break down the key takeaways from the PERE Network Europe Forum 2025. Some 200 market participants representing private real estate’s top institutional investors, asset managers, lenders and advisers came together at the two-day event in London last week to trade insights and strategies amid rapidly changing global property markets, and we have all the details.

    Listen as host Lucy Scott sits with PEI’s real estate editor-in-chief Jonathan Brasse and Real Estate Capital Europe editor Daniel Cunningham to explore the conference’s biggest themes, including Europe’s position as a beneficiary of shifting capital flows, where managers are finding opportunities in market volatility and the types of strategies that are resonating most with institutional investors.

    The wide-ranging conversation features mentions of the perspectives shared by conference speakers including Brookfield chief executive Bruce Flatt, Blackstone managing director David Gorleku, Patron Capital partner Henry Randolph, Ontario Teachers Pension Plan senior managing director Jenny Hammarlund and many more.

    Enjoy the dispatch, and catch last week’s episode featuring Flatt’s fully unabridged keynote talk here.

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    20 min
  • Unlocking potential in Dutch residential: Global capital is key
    Jun 17 2025

    This episode is sponsored by Bouwinvest Real Estate Investors

    The Dutch residential market has remained resilient despite economic turbulence and rising interest rates and is now emerging as a prime destination for international investors.

    In this episode, Paul van Stiphout of Bouwinvest Real Estate Investors and Jorrit Arissen of Van Lanschot Kempen Investment Management unpack the forces driving the market’s strength – from a deep-rooted rental culture and robust occupancy levels to increasing demand for senior and student housing.

    With the Netherlands facing a housing shortfall, Van Stiphout and Arissen discuss how foreign capital will be essential to bridge the gap. They also explore how demographic trends and public funding cuts are creating opportunities in niche sectors, such as senior living, which saw investment jump to €724 million in 2024.

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    18 min
  • Brookfield’s Bruce Flatt at PERE Europe Forum: Full interview
    Jun 13 2025

    Did you miss a rare opportunity to hear Brookfield Asset Management chief executive Bruce Flatt speak on stage at the PERE Network Europe Forum 2025 this week? Fear not.

    The team behind The PERE Podcast is stepping aside from our usual format to showcase the entire unabridged conversation between Flatt and PEI’s real estate editor-in-chief, Jonathan Brasse.

    In this wide-ranging interview, Flatt explains how to make money in today’s real estate environment, the primary function of unlisted property in institutional portfolios, liability matching with insurance money, and harnessing retail and private wealth investors’ growing appetite for private markets. Flatt also reflects on the ups and downs of working with corporate giants like Nvidia and Microsoft as well as his view on AI advances and geopolitical volatility.

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    31 min