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Join Jim and Jason Stephens for weekly insights on the Sandler Selling System, navigating the modern sales landscape, and overcoming real-world business challenges.


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  • The Equality Mandate: Escaping the Subservient Sales Trap
    Jan 30 2026

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    The Myth of the Helpful Servant

    The traditional sales trope is a landscape of desperation, where professionals beg for entry at closing doors and allow clients to dominate the narrative under the guise of "good customer service". We are conditioned to believe that "under-promising and over-delivering" is the gold standard, yet this often devolves into over-promising, under-delivering, and a subsequent erosion of professional credibility. When we allow ourselves to be stereotyped as "less than," we surrender our agency and invite the very scope creep and budget overruns that sabotage our success.

    In this episode, we dissect the psychology of Equal Business Stature—the radical notion that your value as a professional is equivalent to the client's value as a buyer. We explore how to dismantle the "subservient posture" that plagues sales interactions and replace it with a disciplined, assertive framework that demands respect. By separating identity from role, you can move past the "victim loop" of externalizing failure and begin to own the responsibility of being a true peer in the boardroom.

    Key Topics Covered

    • The Trap of Unequal Stature: Unequal business stature occurs when a provider allows a client to dominate through over-accommodation and a failure to set boundaries. This often stems from a "less than" posture—the subtle habit of asking "What can I do to earn your business?"—which predisposes the salesperson to a subservient position simply because the buyer holds the money.
    • The "Foot in the Door" Fallacy: We use the visceral metaphor of a person trying to force their foot into a closing shop door to illustrate the power struggle of desperation. If you are desperate to get in, you have already ceded authority to the person pulling the door shut; true professionals recognize that acting out of desperation is never in their best interest and choose instead to exude the authority of their professionalism.
    • The President-to-President Mindset: To visualize equality, consider a conversation between the presidents of Ford and GMC; there are no "mother I" shenanigans or attempts to "one up" because they see each other as equals. Maintaining this mindset allows for honest, open communication where you can admit when you are "over your head" or lack an answer without sabotaging your results.
    • Assertiveness as the Antidote: Assertiveness is the specific tactical requirement for maintaining stature. It moves a professional away from passivity—where they are merely taking orders and being "friendly"—toward a structured process where expectations are set early, boundaries are held, and bad news is delivered right away.

    Challenge of the Week

    The battle for equal stature begins in the brain through a shift toward a growth mindset. Your task this week is to identify one specific area of your life where you can practice being more assertive. Create a "talk track" to validate this shift, play out the exact words you will say, and practice them until you feel confident. Do not wait for the moment to arrive to "adapt"; prepare the plan now so you don't forget your value when the pressure is on.

    About the Show

    Join hosts Jim and Jason Stephens from Crossroads Business Development as they discuss techniques, tactics, and the occasional tangent associated with the Sandler Selling Sy

    The Sandler Training Hour Hosted by Jim & Jason Stephens | Crossroads Business Development

    We help sales professionals stop apologizing for their process and start closing deals.

    👉 Catch the latest episode: The Sandler Training Hour

    "Keep learning, stay curious, and good luck out there.

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    10 min
  • Avoiding "Unpaid Consulting" When Bringing Experts on the Road
    Jan 23 2026

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    Bringing a Subject Matter Expert (SME) or technical lead into a sales meeting can add immense credibility, but without the right guardrails, it often creates a "operations centric" call rather than a "sales centric" one. Technical experts often equate helping with teaching, leading to deep dives into the weeds that can confuse the prospect and accidentally migrate the meeting into "unpaid consulting".

    In this episode, Jim and Jason Stephens explore the critical dynamic between sales and operations. They discuss how to choreograph team selling situations to ensure technical competence supports the sales process rather than hijacking it.

    KEY TOPICS COVERED

    • The "Confused Mind Says No": Jim warns that support staff often feel their job is to demonstrate exactly how much they know to validate their presence. However, this flood of information often tilts the buyer’s thinking from "let's do this" to "I hadn't thought about that, maybe I'm not ready.". The team must balance expertise with clarity, remembering that a confused buyer rarely buys.
    • Defining the RACI Roles: To prevent the meeting from going off-road, Jim applies the RACI model (Responsible, Accountable, Consulted, Informed) to the sales call. Regardless of who is speaking, the salesperson remains the "Responsible" party charged with shepherding the buyer to a decision. The technical expert is there to consult, not to drive the strategy.
    • Internal Upfront Contracts & Safe Words: Jason suggests establishing clear signals—or "safe words"—before the meeting begins to manage flow. Whether it’s a phrase like "That's a good point" or a physical cue like tugging an ear, the team needs a pre-agreed method to pivot the conversation back to the sales track without looking disjointed or unprofessional to the client.
    • Orchestration Over Luck: Hoping that operations does a good job and sales does a good job is not a strategy; the "batting average for getting lucky" is significantly lower than training and practice. The hosts emphasize the need for mock presentations to align the team on the specific strategy of the call so the client sees a cohesive unit rather than a disconnect.

    CHALLENGE OF THE WEEK

    Review your internal preparation process before your next joint call. Don't just "wing it"; put in the work to establish an internal Upfront Contract with your operations team regarding expectations and roles. Determine your "safe words" or signals to ensure you can correct the trajectory of the meeting if technical details get too heavy.

    ABOUT THE SHOW

    Join hosts Jim and Jason Stephens from Crossroads Business Development as they discuss techniques, tactics, and the occasional tangent associated with the Sandler Selling System. Whether you are prospecting, negotiating, or closing, The Sandler Training Hour gives you the actionable advice you need to stop "winging it" and start controlling the sale.

    The Sandler Training Hour Hosted by Jim & Jason Stephens | Crossroads Business Development

    We help sales professionals stop apologizing for their process and start closing deals.

    👉 Catch the latest episode: The Sandler Training Hour

    "Keep learning, stay curious, and good luck out there.

    Voir plus Voir moins
    10 min
  • The Tolerance Gap: Navigating the Fear of Failure and Success
    Jan 16 2026

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    Intro

    Many talented professionals find themselves trapped by a "tolerance gap," where the fear of underdelivering or the subtle self-sabotage of the fear of success keeps them from turning their mastery into a thriving business. We often let amorphous anxieties—the "imposter" feeling or the worry of failing to meet expectations—prevent us from taking the calculated risks necessary for growth.

    In this episode, Jim and Jason Stephens explore the psychological battle of balancing a growth mindset against the inherent risks of professional advancement. They break down how to ground your risk tolerance in reality and why "winging it" is often just as dangerous as total risk avoidance.

    Key Topics Covered

    • The Subtle Sabotage of the Fear of Success: While the fear of failure is a common motivator, Jim highlights that the fear of success is often harder to identify because it is so subtle. Subconsciously, professionals may fear that success will force them to live outside their comfort zone, requiring them to find new clients, generate revenue, and transform a passionate hobby into a high-pressure job.
    • Naming and Granularizing Your Fears: Jason emphasizes that to overcome the things that prevent action, you must get "in the weeds" to define exactly what you are afraid of. By moving away from amorphous descriptions and getting as granular as possible—such as imagining the specific frustration of a partner or client—you can objectively evaluate the consequences of a risk.
    • The Worst Case vs. Best Case Framework: Instead of being reckless or avoidant, the hosts suggest a deliberate risk assessment: identify the worst-case scenario, determine if you can live with it, and then decide if the best-case outcome is worth the fight. This calculation helps transition from "intuitive" risk-taking to a more effective "planning" approach.
    • Building "Guts" Through Low-Stakes Practice: Jim shares an anecdote about his early days door-knocking, where he would sit in his car and realize the worst thing that could happen was being "thrown out by the scruff of the neck". By practicing courage in low-stakes environments like cold calling or door-to-door prospecting, you reap the benefit of "gut building" for the moments when the gain is truly sizable.

    CHALLENGE OF THE WEEK

    Identify a risk you have been avoiding and pinpoint your specific part in "not doing the thing". Stop defaulting to blaming your environment or external influences; instead, name the specific fear holding you back and evaluate whether the worst-case scenario is truly as dangerous as your mind has made it out to be.

    The Sandler Training Hour Hosted by Jim & Jason Stephens | Crossroads Business Development

    We help sales professionals stop apologizing for their process and start closing deals.

    👉 Catch the latest episode: The Sandler Training Hour

    "Keep learning, stay curious, and good luck out there.

    Voir plus Voir moins
    12 min
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