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We’ve made salvation too easy—and that’s not a compliment.

We’ve told people they’re saved because they repeated a few words or raised their hands during a worship song. But salvation was never meant to be a spiritual transaction—it’s a total surrender. If your faith never demanded anything of you… are you sure it’s real?

In this episode, I break down why saying you're a Christian isn’t the same as following Christ. We’ll unpack repentance, surrender, discipleship, and the evidence that salvation actually happened—fruit. This isn’t about perfection. It’s about transformation.

This is the first part of a two-part series on salvation—what it’s not, and what it must be if you’re serious about following Jesus.

What I cover in this episode:

• Why asking for forgiveness isn’t the finish line
• What happens when the Gospel gets reduced to a pitch
• The connection between Lordship and fruit
• What’s missing in so many altar calls
• Why a Christian life without change isn’t Christian at all

⏱ Timestamps
00:00 – Introduction: What to Look for in Your Next Church and Pastor
00:13 – The Sinner's Prayer: An Overview
00:52 – Critique of the Sinner's Prayer
02:24 – The Biblical Perspective on Salvation
12:15 – The Importance of Repentance
15:36 – Transformation and Sanctification
20:01 – Conclusion: The True Call to Follow Jesus
22:41 – Final Thoughts and Call to Action

📖 Key Scriptures
Romans 10:9 | Matthew 7:21–23 | Luke 9:57–62 | Galatians 2:20 | John 15:4–5 | Matthew 16:24–25 | 1 Peter 1:14–16 | Romans 12:1 | Galatians 5:22–25

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What should a real pastor look like?

In this episode, I sit down with my own pastor, Jared Verwiel of Tulsa Bible Church, to cut through the spiritual posturing and power games that infect far too many pulpits. We talk real ministry — not performance, not personality cults, and definitely not spiritual manipulation. Just biblical shepherding.

This conversation isn’t theory. It’s raw insight from someone in the trenches — and a reminder that not every church is a circus. Some pastors still preach the Word and carry the weight of souls with reverent fear.

🔹 Topics include:
– Spiritual abuse and church hurt
– The human side of pastoral ministry
– What shepherding really means
– Why non-denominational doesn’t mean unaccountable
– When church leadership goes toxic

📖 Key Scriptures:
1 Peter 5:2–3 – “Shepherd the flock of God that is among you… not domineering over those in your charge.”
John 10:11 – “I am the good shepherd…”

00:00 Introduction and Upcoming Sermon
00:31 Welcome to The Saved For Later Podcast
00:40 Finding a New Church
00:59 Interview with Pastor Jared Verwiel
06:13 Pastoral Ministry and Responsibilities
07:43 Non-Denominational Church Dynamics
12:35 Handling Church Conflicts
23:25 Sunday Sermon Preparation
35:55 Navigating Multiple Teaching Pastors
36:15 The Pastor's Testimony
37:41 Discovering Faith in College
41:49 Journey to Ministry
45:29 Seminary Experience and Education
50:00 The Importance of Church Community
57:12 Unity in the Church
01:07:52 The Call to Pastoral Ministry
01:13:02 Final Thoughts and Farewell

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Thinking about going back to church? Or stepping into one for the first time? Slow down — this episode might save you from walking into a spiritual trap.

There are a thousand churches that look good on the outside but are spiritually bankrupt on the inside. This episode tackles the uncomfortable truth: not every church that uses the name of Jesus actually teaches His gospel. We’ll talk about how to spot spiritual entertainment vs. genuine biblical discipleship, and why “just trying church” isn’t enough if your soul’s at stake.

🔹 Topics include:
– Why your eternity demands a wise church choice
– What the New Testament actually says about the church
– Red flags in the modern Western church
– Why symptom management is not the gospel
– How to pursue long-term transformation over quick fixes

📖 Key Scriptures:
Matthew 28:18–20 – The Great Commission
Romans 12:4–5 – The Body of Christ
Revelation 21:2 – The Bride of Christ

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