In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, speaks with Robert Pasin, Chief Wagon Officer at Radio Flyer. They take a deep dive into the history of the iconic wagon brand and the three generations of Pasin’s family that have helmed the brand. Covering everything from the e-commerce revolution that transformed how retail operated to shutdowns that threatened the brand as a whole, they share strategic insights applicable across sectors.

00:00 Meet Robert Pasin: Chief Wagon Officer & 4th Generation Leader of Radio Flyer

01:16 The 5-Year-Old's First Day at Work: A Magical Factory That Changed Everything

02:09 From Italy to Chicago: The Immigrant Carpenter Who Built an American Icon

03:46 The Mystery Behind the Name "Radio Flyer" Finally Solved0

4:41 The 45-Foot Giant That Launched a Brand at the 1933 World's Fair

06:03 When a 100-Year Company Almost Died: The Early 90s Crisis

07:31 The Plastic Revolution That Blindsided Radio Flyer

09:24 From "We Make Wagons" to "We Create Warm Memories"

11:36 The Bank Meeting That Taught a Young CEO About Cash Flow13:03 The Tricycle That Never Existed (But Everyone Remembered Having)

14:38 Becoming CEO at 28: "Nobody Else Wanted the Job"

18:59 "Plant a Lot of Seeds": How to Innovate Without Betting the Farm

20:07 Inside Radio Flyer's Prototype Shop: Where Ideas Become Reality

22:40 Why Radio Flyer Thinks "Quarter Century, Not Quarter"

29:12 The Day They Shut Down the Factory: A Leadership Test

38:04 From Toys"R"Us to Amazon: Adapting to Retail's Revolution

41:47 Why Focus Groups Lie: The Power of Observing Real Behavior

49:06 The 360 Feedback That Changed Everything

52:50 Electric Bikes and the Next Chapter: Hauling Kids for Another 100 Years

56:47 The One Leadership Skill That Matters Most

58:20 Why Teenage Kids Are the Ultimate CEO Reality Check

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