In this episode, hosts Zack, Josie, and Brad sit down with Ferdinand the bull, to explore the real, often-unspoken complexities of being a single male navigating ENM spaces. Ferdinand shares how he first entered the lifestyle at the encouragement of his then-wife, who never chose to participate herself. Now eight years, a divorce, and countless connections later, he finds himself at a crossroads: dating in the vanilla world while weighing whether he can—or should—remain in the lifestyle community he’s grown so deeply attached to.

The hosts dig into the nuanced decisions single men face, including when to disclose lifestyle involvement to vanilla partners, and the unique blend of freedom, connection, and emotional intelligence that strong bulls cultivate. Ferdinand opens up about both the highs and the lows: the excitement of partnered experiences, the intimacy he builds with couples, and the loneliness being a bull can create.

Together, they unpack the dynamics between bulls and couples, the financial realities of being a single male in lifestyle spaces, and the stereotypes that make forming genuine connections harder than most people realize. Ferdinand also offers grounded, experience-based advice for single men curious about entering the lifestyle—highlighting why assertiveness paired with respect is essential, and why aggression never works.

This episode offers an honest look at what single men gain from the lifestyle that traditional dating can’t provide, and what it truly costs, emotionally and financially, to walk this path.

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(00:00:00) Good luck Chuck

(00:02:00) How I found the lifestyle

(00:04:46) Friends with benefits

(00:06:09) Being a bull in the lifestyle can be lonely

(00:07:45) Evolving in the lifestyle over the last 8 years

(00:08:50) Navigating the LS can be difficult and rejection is common

(00:09:36) I shared my sexual experiences with my wife

(00:10:17) Dating vanillas while you’re in the lifestyle

(00:13:03) Benefits and drawbacks of being a bull

(00:14:24) Bringing a new partner into the lifestyle

(00:16:25) Favorite lifestyle events or activities

(00:19:01) Advice for single males entering the lifestyle

(00:22:33) The bull / couple dynamics

(00:24:41) Lifestyle scenarios

(00:29:39) Assumptions people make about bulls

(00:33:07) What singles get out of the lifestyle

(00:34:18) Addressing sexual orientation

(00:36:05) I’m a good first experience for couples

(00:37:02) Catching feelings

(00:38:10) Being a bull is expensive

(00:39:01) How they begin and how I conduct myself in play sessions

(00:40:01) Communication and emotional intelligence

(00:43:59) A good learning experience

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In this week’s episode, hosts Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany dive into one of the most universally frustrating parts of the lifestyle: communication… or the lack of it. From last-minute confirmations that never come to couples who keep others dangling “just in case,” the crew unpacks the subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways poor communication can waste time, strain friendships, and complicate connections.

They explore why it feels so disrespectful when couples make plans but go silent when it’s time to confirm, and how annoying it is when someone breaks a commitment and then disappears—only to ask you to suggest a new time and never respond. The hosts also share their collective experience with a notoriously flaky couple whose repeated excuses have become a running theme in their local community.

The conversation moves into whether people owe each other explanations when interest fades, or whether being honest only invites unnecessary drama. They also examine the sting of being ghosted by close friends, and the gray area where “ghosting” isn’t so clear—especially in a dynamic with multiple people, mismatched levels of interest, or partners who aren’t on the same page.

Ultimately, the group acknowledges what everyone secretly knows: the lifestyle is awkward, interest is complicated, and communication between couples is hard. But understanding how these behaviors affect others—and recognizing the subjectivity of what counts as ghosting—can make navigating it all just a little easier.

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(00:00:00) The sizzle fizzle

(00:02:23) The times when we’ve flaked or ghosted

(00:04:02) Communication is great….then crickets!

(00:05:55) Ranting about coordinating with people who are traveling

(00:14:00) Speculating on why people may flake or ghost

(00:16:34) Letting people know you’re not interested so they don’t wonder

(00:17:42) A local couple with a reputation for expressing interest and not following through

(00:22:24) The local lifestyle scene

(00:26:38) Another rant about a gh osting scenario

(00:29:12) Being honest about your true interest

(00:31:00) Texting etiquette

(00:34:26) When too much time passes between responses

(00:38:00) Challenges in identifying and connecting with couples online

(00:40:25) How honest should you be when breaking plans?

(00:43:18) When friends ghost you

(00:48:28) Ghosting is subjective and may not always be a bad thing

(00:51:58) Be kind, honest, direct, respectful and don’t string people along

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