In this powerful first installment, Ryan and Steve dive deep into the realities of rehabilitation behind bars.

They explore the range of programming available within the system—from state-sponsored initiatives to religious, educational, and inmate-led efforts—and reflect on how each plays a role in personal transformation.

Through candid storytelling, they share the programs that helped them change, the challenges of staying out after release, and the mindset required to break the cycle of recidivism.

This episode is a raw, insightful look at what it really takes to rebuild from the inside out.

🎙️ Episode 3 – Needed Leadership
Leadership isn’t just about authority—it’s about moral courage, vision, and the power to transform lives. In this episode, Ryan and Steve unpack the deeper dimensions of leadership through the lens of rehabilitation and redemption. They spotlight Warden Burl Cain’s radical transformation of Angola Prison, once known as the bloodiest prison in America, into a place of hope and purpose. Through stories of moral leadership and second chances, this conversation challenges listeners to rethink what true leadership looks like—in institutions, communities, and within ourselves.

Episode 2: Redemption & Missing Statistics
This week on Unconfined Conversation, we get personal. Ryan and Steve open up about their own journeys of redemption—what it took, what it changed, and what still lingers. Along the way, we explore how missing data can erase stories that matter, and why reclaiming your narrative is sometimes the most radical act of all.