Wellness has never been louder, or more confusing. From six week bikini plans to “wellness-washed” products promising miracle quick fixes, it’s easy to feel overwhelmed before you’ve even made breakfast.

This week on Well Enough, Emilie Lavinia sits down with Ella Mills, founder of Deliciously Ella. Ella sprung into the public eye in the early 2010s as a food blogger and has gone on to build one of the UK’s most trusted plant-based brands. She’s watched the wellness industry grow into a multi-trillion-dollar machine and she’s refreshingly honest about what’s gone wrong along the way.

Ella shares what it really takes to build a household name, how she balances entrepreneurship with family life, and why true health has nothing to do with quick fixes or perfection.

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00:00 Introduction

01:03 The Evolution of the Wellness Industry

02:18 Wellness Trends

03:26 The Truth About Ultra-Processed Foods

04:13 Stop Overcomplicating Wellness

05:42 Why the Wellness Industry is Failing Us

06:47 Overcoming Burnout and Mental Load

07:38 Sustainable Meal Planning for Busy Families

08:42 Small Habits: 5-Minute Meditation & Breathwork

10:31 Health is Not a Six-Week Bikini Plan

11:39 How to Eat More Fiber Daily

12:54 The 1% Rule for Habit Change

14:21 The Power of Community and Movement

15:52 What is Wellness Washing?

17:23 Moving Beyond "Biohacking" & Hype

18:48 Is Vegan Food Ultra-Processed?

20:47 The Rise of the Flexitarian Diet

23:02 10-Minute Recipe: Fancy Butter Beans on Toast

26:24 Morning Routines and Digital Detox

33:38 The Power of Doing "Well Enough"

More from Ella:

• Deliciously Ella website
• Ella’s Instagram
• Ella’s new cookbook ‘Quick Wins’

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Joe Wicks – a national fitness treasure – had a turbulent 2025. After speaking out against protein bars and ultra-processed food, he faced an unexpected backlash. Once the nation’s PE teacher during lockdown, Joe joins us to reflect on the emotional impact of that criticism, and how he balances family life with the pressure to maintain a flawless public image.

In this candid chat, Joe discusses his new cookbook, which focuses on helping us add more protein to our diets, and brings his trademark warmth and honesty. He opens up about his concerns around social media, and shares how his children are beginning to understand his rise to fame.

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00:00 Introduction

02:16 Why is Everyone Obsessed With Protein?

03:10 The Real Benefits of Protein for Women & Perimenopause

05:10 The "Protein Halo": Avoiding Ultra-Processed Food (UPF)

06:36 The Link Between Diet, Mood, and Mental Health

08:14 Why Joe Wicks Made the Controversial UPF Documentary

10:11 Facing Backlash from the Fitness Community

12:12 Why the Food Industry Stresses Joe Out

14:15 Is Healthy Eating Too Expensive?

16:32 The Power of Batch Cooking & Meal Planning

18:24 Rejecting "Perfection" in Nutrition

20:14 Joe Wicks on Vulnerability and "Off Days"

22:11 Why Authenticity is More Important Than a "Highlights Reel"

24:00 The Dangers of AI Filters and Fitness Influencers

25:54 How to Beat Phone Addiction

27:18 Joe Wicks on His Political Legacy (The Next Jamie Oliver?)

29:02 Homeschooling and Raising Healthy Kids

31:20 Joe’s Top Tip: How to Get Kids to Eat Vegetables

34:18 Transitioning from Veganism to an Omnivore Diet

37:16 The "Phone Free Dad" Rule & Importance of Sleep

More from Joe Wicks:

• New book Protein in 15
• Joe’s website
• Follow Joe on Instagram

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The advice to eat your greens is nothing new, but scientific research is now putting a specific number on just how much variety our bodies actually need. In this highlight from Well Enough, we return to the subject of the microbiome and the science of eating well.

Our guest is Dr Megan Rossi, also known as The Gut Health Doctor, who discusses a landmark study from the American Gut Project that changed how we view dietary diversity.

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