Emmy-nominated video journalist Cleo Abram joins Trevor and Eugene to talk about Huge If True, her hit YouTube series that takes an optimistic approach to science and emerging technology. The three explore how asking “what could go right?” might be the most powerful tool we have for moving humanity forward, why optimism isn’t naïve but necessary, and how the physics of curling (the most divisive Olympic sport) can be used as an example of pessimism keeping us from imagining a better world.

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Trevor and Eugene go wild with world-class explorer and nature documentarian Bertie Gregory to tackle one of life’s most important questions: are animals assholes? From whale poop and chimp gangs to elephant stepdads and guanaco hunts, Bertie pulls back the curtain on the animal kingdom’s messiest, funniest dramas—before landing on the surprisingly moving truth about climate change and what’s at stake….for them, for our planet, and for us.

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In this episode, Trevor and Eugene unpack intergenerational trauma with psychiatrist Rachel Yehuda. Turns out, trauma is inherited, passed down through generations, but don’t fear! The three turn the heavy science of PTSD into a profound conversation about meaning-making and we learn that where trauma can be passed-down, so can resilience.

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