Business, entrepreneurship, money, and ethics collide when Ben and Jon break down where successful entrepreneurs actually draw the line in their business decisions. This conversation is raw, direct, and loaded with real world examples people never admit publicly.

From OnlyFans challenges to overseas labor, nothing is off limits. This is not moral posturing. It is two entrepreneurs walking through the decisions real founders face and the ethical bar they set for themselves in business.

What would you do for money? What wouldn’t you do even if the market rewarded it? And where does the idea of ethics even come from when every entrepreneur is constantly balancing incentives, responsibility, family, risk, and survival?

This episode is a deep dive into how operators think about the gray areas, what they refuse to touch, and what they believe is fair game in the real world of entrepreneurship.

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Timestamps:

00:20 — OnlyFans / Adult Content

02:30 — Magic Mushrooms / Psychedelics

05:50 — Catfishing With AI

09:55 — Kid Influencers for Sales

15:00 — Rage-Bait Political Content

18:30 — Repackaging Free Information Into Paid Courses

22:32 — Buying Fake Reviews / Testimonials

26:52 — Using Bots to Buy & Resell Scarce Items

29:55 — Artificial Scarcity (fake timers, “only 3 left”)

33:56 — Hiring Overseas Labor

39:05 — Selling Knockoff or Counterfeit Goods

44:15 — Affiliate Marketing Products You Haven’t Used

48:45 — MLMs & Being at the Top of the Pyramid

52:00 — Payday Loans / Predatory Lending