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  • 10: Chasing Fun with the Enneagram Type 7: Navigating Life, Family, and Faith with Natalie Wells
    Nov 20 2025

    In this episode of Why Do I Do What I Do?, we explore the vibrant, possibility-driven world of the Enneagram Type 7—The Enthusiast. Host Paul Basden interviews Natalie Wells, Parent Communications Director at Preston Trail Community Church, who shares how the Seven’s love of fun, spontaneity, and freedom shapes her family life, marriage to an Enneagram One, and her spiritual walk.

    Natalie opens up about her upbeat “YOLO” mindset, her legendary costume carpool line, and the challenge Sevens face in sitting with sadness—especially through the loss of her father. She also shares practical ways she’s learned to pause, savor, and stay present.

    If you're an Enneagram 7 (or love one), this episode offers relatable stories, faith-based insight, and a deeper look at the unique gifts and struggles of The Enthusiast.

    Show Notes
    • What defines an Enneagram 7

    • Strengths and shadow sides of The Enthusiast

    • How Sevens navigate marriage with an Enneagram One

    • The role of spontaneity, FOMO, and planning the next adventure

    • How Sevens avoid sadness—and how Natalie learned to face it

    • The spiritual journey of an Enneagram 7: joy, gratitude, and open-handed living

    • Natalie’s famous “costume carpool line” tradition

    • Scripture that resonates with Type 7s: John 10:10, Ecclesiastes 8:15

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    27 min
  • 09: Enneagram Type 6 Explained: Loyalty, Anxiety, and Learning to Trust God with Warren Jacobs and Josh Manuel
    Nov 13 2025
    In this episode of Why Do I Do What I Do? Exploring the Enneagram, Paul Basden sits down with two longtime Preston Trail pastors—Warren Jacobs (Worship Pastor) and Josh Manuel (Men’s Pastor)—to explore the steady, loyal, and thoughtful nature of the Enneagram Type Six: The Loyalist. Known as the “guardian” of the Enneagram, Sixes are faithful, reliable, and protective—always planning ahead to make sure others feel safe and supported. But beneath that loyalty lies a constant battle with fear, self-doubt, and the need for security. Together, Warren and Josh share how these traits show up in their lives, marriages, parenting, and ministry—and how faith helps them turn anxiety into trust. Listeners will hear: How Sixes bring stability and reliability to relationships and teams. Why fear and overthinking can lead to “paralysis by analysis”—and how to break that cycle. How loyalty and problem-solving make Sixes natural leaders and teammates. What Scripture says about overcoming fear and resting in God’s security (Philippians 4:6–8, Jeremiah 29:11, and Romans 12:1). The humor, humility, and practical wisdom that help Sixes thrive at home, at work, and in faith. Whether you’re a Six yourself or love someone who is, this conversation offers a powerful reminder: peace doesn’t come from control—it comes from trust.
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    41 min
  • 08: Understanding Enneagram 5 : Knowledge, Boundaries, and the Journey Toward Connection with Sonya Jacobs
    Nov 6 2025
    In this insightful episode of Why Do I Do What I Do? Exploring the Enneagram, Paul Basden sits down with Sonya Jacobs, Marriage and Support Pastor at Preston Trail Community Church, to explore the thoughtful and deeply introspective world of the Enneagram Type Five: The Investigator. As a biblical counselor, ministry leader, and wife of 31 years, Sonya offers a unique window into the mind of a Type Five—known for their curiosity, independence, and lifelong pursuit of knowledge. Together, Paul and Sonya unpack what it looks like to live as a Five in marriage, parenting, and ministry, and how this personality type’s strength of insight can also become a struggle with emotional detachment or over-independence. Listeners will hear: How Enneagram Fives process life through learning, observation, and reflection. The challenge of balancing self-sufficiency with vulnerability in relationships. The spiritual transformation that happens when Fives surrender control and allow others in. Why healthy rhythms of rest, solitude, and study are essential to thriving as a Five. How understanding her Enneagram type helps Sonya counsel others, nurture her family, and grow closer to Christ. Sonya’s story is both deeply practical and spiritually rich—offering encouragement for anyone who’s ever wrestled with needing to “know enough” before taking a step of faith. Mentioned in this episode: The Enneagram Made Easy by Renee Baron and Elizabeth Wagele The Gift of Being Yourself by David Benner
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    31 min
  • 07: Enneagram Type 4 Explained: Strengths, Struggles, and Faith with Tara Wedemeyer
    Oct 31 2025

    In this episode of Why Do I Do What I Do? Exploring the Enneagram, Paul Basden sits down with Tara Wedemeyer — licensed professional counselor, artist, wife, mom of two boys, and Enneagram Type Four — for a raw, honest, and beautifully nuanced look at what it means to live as The Individualist.

    Enneagram Fours are known for their creativity, emotional depth, and desire to live with authenticity. Tara shares how this plays out in real life: in her marriage, parenting two teenage boys, co-owning a counseling practice, and navigating her own inner world with compassion and curiosity. She opens up about the gifts of being a Four — empathy, creativity, intuition — as well as the challenges, like the pull toward melancholy, the longing to feel “unique,” and the inner critic that sometimes gets too loud.

    In this conversation you’ll hear Tara discuss:

    • The tension between creativity and vulnerability

    • Why emotional depth is not the same as depression

    • How she navigates the “inner critic” and practices self-compassion

    • The power of boundaries and emotional safety in relationships

    • How knowing her Enneagram type shapes her faith, counseling, and motherhood

    Paul also unpacks what makes Fours distinct: a desire to be authentic and unique, comfort with the full range of emotions, and the belief that something significant is missing — both in them and in life. Tara responds with honesty, reflection, and humor, offering listeners a look inside the emotional landscape of a Four and demonstrating how this type brings beauty and depth to the world.

    Whether you are a Four, love a Four, or struggle to understand a Four, this episode offers validation, clarity, and a reminder that our deepest emotions can be invitations to connection — not isolation.

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    29 min
  • 06: Achieving with Purpose and Grace with Angel Hadley & Rick Wisner
    Oct 23 2025

    In this episode of Why Do I Do What I Do? Exploring the Enneagram, Paul sits down with two dynamic leaders from Preston Trail Community Church—Angel Hadley (Engagement Pastor) and Rick Wisner (Discipleship Pastor)—to explore the drive, discipline, and heart of the Enneagram Type 3: The Achiever.

    Known for their energy, focus, and relentless pursuit of excellence, Threes are natural leaders who inspire others to reach new goals—but they also face unique challenges beneath the surface. Together, Angel and Rick offer an honest, faith-centered look at how the Achiever’s desire for success, validation, and admiration can both fuel impact and create exhaustion.

    You’ll hear:

    • How Threes balance ambition and authenticity in ministry, family, and daily life.

    • The shadow side of achievement—perfectionism, image management, and burnout.

    • How self-awareness and faith can transform performance into purpose.

    • Practical ways to slow down, celebrate small wins, and lead with grace instead of striving.

    With humor, humility, and hard-earned wisdom, Angel and Rick share how they’ve learned to root their identity not in performance, but in Christ. This episode offers a refreshing reminder that true success isn’t about achieving more—it’s about becoming more like Jesus.

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    36 min
  • 05: Living as an Enneagram 2: Compassion, Pride, and Healthy Boundaries with Kari Dobbs
    Oct 15 2025

    05: In this episode of Why Do I Do What I Do? Exploring the Enneagram, Paul sits down with his daughter, Kari Dobbs, to unpack life as an Enneagram Two—the Helper and Encourager. Known for their deep compassion, loyalty, and desire to be needed, Twos are often described as the most relational type on the Enneagram. But as Kari shares, those same strengths can sometimes become struggles when pride, people-pleasing, or perfectionism creep in.

    Together, Paul and Kari explore: What it means to live with a “Helper’s heart” in marriage, parenting four boys, teaching, ministry, and friendships. The strengths of a Two: empathy, loyalty, encouragement, and the ability to connect deeply with others. The shadow side of a Two: pride, over-functioning, and the exhaustion that comes from giving until there’s nothing left. How Kari has learned to balance caring for others with setting healthy boundaries and practicing self-care. Why faith and encouragement are central to her identity, and how following Jesus has reshaped her understanding of serving and loving others. Kari’s story is filled with honesty, humor, and hard-won wisdom about relationships, self-awareness, and spiritual growth. Whether you’re a Two yourself or love someone who is, this episode shines a light on both the beauty and the challenges of the Helper’s journey.
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    27 min
  • 04: Living as an Enneagram One: Parenting, Leadership, and Overcoming Perfectionism
    Oct 9 2025

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    In this episode of Why Do I Do What I Do? Exploring the Enneagram, Paul sits down with Sarah Davidson, Executive Pastor of Ministries at Preston Trail Community Church, to unpack the gifts and challenges of being an Enneagram One. Known as the Perfectionist or the Improver, Ones are motivated by a deep desire to do what’s right, live with integrity, and make the world a better place. Sarah shares candidly about how her Enneagram type shapes her marriage, parenting three boys, and leadership of a large church staff. From the high standards and reliability that make her a trusted leader, to the inner critic and critical eye that can sometimes create tension, Sarah opens up about the real-life experience of being a One at work and at home. Together, Paul and Sarah explore: The strengths of a One: integrity, clarity, reliability, and consistency. The shadow side of a One: perfectionism, criticism, and the struggle to rest. How Sarah has learned to pursue excellence over perfection and lean into grace. Practical wisdom for Ones learning to silence the inner critic, embrace rest, and lead with encouragement instead of judgment. Whether you’re an Enneagram One yourself or love someone who is, this conversation offers rich insight into how Ones can move from criticism to compassion, and from perfectionism to peace.
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    36 min
  • 03: Going Deeper with the Enneagram: Exploring Triads, Centers, and Spiritual Growth
    Oct 2 2025

    03: Knowing your Enneagram number is just the beginning. In this episode, host Paul Basden dives deeper into the Enneagram to uncover the layers that reveal not only your type, but also your habits, motivations, and path toward transformation.

    You’ll unpack: Virtues and Vices: How your greatest strengths can also become your biggest struggles, and why choosing virtue over vice leads to growth. Centers of Intelligence (Triads): The Heart (2-3-4), Head (5-6-7), and Gut (8-9-1) triads that shape how we feel, think, and act. Paul shares how Christian faith intersects with the Enneagram, showing how prayer, confession, and the Holy Spirit help us move from vice to virtue—becoming more of who God created us to be. Whether you’re just beginning with the Enneagram or you’ve studied it for years, this episode will give you practical tools and spiritual insights to deepen your journey of self-awareness and discipleship. Additional Resources:
    • The Enneagram Made Easy by Elizabeth Wagele & Renee Baron

    • The Road Back to You by Ian Morgan Cron & Suzanne Stabile

    • The Story of You by Ian Morgan Cron

    • The Enneagram of Emotional Intelligence by Scott Allender

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    17 min