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Talmage sits down with Maddy Packer, a passionate LDS apologist and history buff, for an insightful episode. Maddy grew up in New Mexico, attending Catholic school from seventh through twelfth grade, and later studying archaeology and history in college. Using both formal education and self-study, Maddy has become well-versed in several historical topics that they discussed today.

They talked about:

1. Disgruntled ex-members who paint the church as tyranical patriarchy
2. Non-LDS christians who demonize the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. And why they’re wrong when they say we’re not christian.
3. Evidence/Arguements of the Book of Mormon’s Authenticity

This Episode was recorded on November 5th, 2025

Timestamps:

00:00 Mormonism: Faith, Criticism, Misconceptions

06:20 "Faithful Choices and Ridicule"

12:22 Questioning Faith and Belief

15:31 "Questioning Doctrine's Significance"

25:42 God's Gender Discussion Tactics

27:39 "Questioning Christ's Physicality"

34:42 Social Media: Anxiety and Escape

39:52 "Personal Life and Opposition Insight"

42:47 "Equality: Equal, Not Identical"

51:03 "Marriage, Culture, and Gospel Values"

53:54 Defending Public Perception of Faith

59:07 "Debating Trinity's Biblical Basis"

01:06:19 Defining Official Doctrine Challenges

01:08:23 "Debating Jesus' Resurrection Accounts"

01:14:34 Joseph Smith: Genius or Inspired?

01:22:42 "Choosing to Be Like God"

01:24:39 "Renewing Faith and Testimony"

Maddy’s Links:

https://www.instagram.com/thesurefoundation/

https://www.tiktok.com/@thesurefoundation?_r=1&_t=ZT-91IfGXMd3hF

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Remember, God is good and is planning on your success. And though you've been released from your mission, you haven't been released from your ministry.